(WIND WHISTLING)
(GATE RATFLING)
(DOOR OPENS)
我叫戴安娜·恩裏克斯 DIANA: My name is Diana Henriques.
是紐約時代的調查記者 As an investigative reporter for the New York Times,
自始至終 我一直在跟蹤報道 I had been covering the Bernie Madofl' scandal
伯納德·麥道夫的醜聞案 fmm the day it began.
在數月的請求與通信後 After months of requests and correspondence,
我終於可以在2010年8月24日這天 I was finally able to sit down and interview Bernie Madoff
坐下來面對面採訪伯納德·麥道夫了 on August 24th, 2010.
直至今日 Until today,
除了律師 his only visitor, apart from lawyers,
只有他的妻子來看望過他 has been his wife.
關於他的罪行 He has not answered any independent questions about his crime,
他沒有私下回答過任何一個問題
除非是在法庭上 except when standing in a courtroom responding to a judge.
面對法官的質疑 (DOOR BUZZES)
法庭上的他 On those occasions,
表情呆板 一副排練過的樣子 he seemed stiff, almost rehearsed.
在我們私下的交談中 But in our conversation,
他看上去很放鬆 he seemed relaxed, unfailingly candid,
一副公正
誠摯 可靠的樣子 earnest, and trustworthy.
這便是他過人之處 That is his talent and his curse.
也正是如此 幫助他 That is what enabled him
脫離了龐氏詐騙指控 to pull off the biggest Ponzi scheme on record.
650億美元 $65 billion.
伯納德·L·麥道夫 Bernard L. Madoffl
編號61727054 Inmate number 61727054.
(DOOR CLOSES)
(NEWS JINGLE PLAYS)
今日海外貿易市場 REPORTER: In overseas trading today,
日經指數下滑了超出8個百分點 the Nikkei was down over 8%, with Australia's benchmark not far behind.
澳洲利率緊隨其後
此次危機毫無結束之相 The crisis shows no sign of ending
紐約 2008年12月10日
今晨華爾街與緬因街的 as Dow Futures are down this morning on Wall Street
道瓊斯指數正在持續 and Main Street continues to find itself in the crosshairs
- 暴跌之中... - 該死 of the largest meltdown... - Shit.
自從經濟大蕭條起 ...since the Great Depression.
投資者與銀行都看緊了腰包 Investors and banks are holding onto their cash
等待金融市場的回暖 until more certainty can be flushed into financial markets.
下面接進鮑勃·薩默斯 Let's g0 now to Bob Summers
他將帶來另一座城市 with a story on yet another city going under from the mortgage crisis.
由於貸款危機經濟下滑的新聞
我正位於加州夫勒斯諾市 在這裏... REPORTER: I'm in Fresno, California, where if you look around...
伯納德·麥道夫投資證券公司 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
我先來 Just let me lead it off.
真是瘋了 It's completely fucking crazy.
這一次我們不能再讓步了 安迪 We can't back down on this one, Andy.
不能再做出退讓 一定要死死抓在手裏 ANDREW: We're not gonna back down. We're gonna hold firm.
什麼情況 招呼都不打一個嗎？ What, no good mornings, no hellos?
老爸 Dad?
怎麼了？ What's going on?
你要以年終獎的形式發放一億7500萬美元？ You're giving out $175 mil in bonuses?
- 沒錯 - 在十二月份？ - I am. - In December?
今年效益不錯 We've had a very strong year.
今年還沒有結束 還不知年末如何呢 The yeafs not over. We don't know where we're gonna land.
我想獎勵一下大家 (SIGHS) lwanna reward people.
鼓勵一下他們的工作 I want them to feel good about the work they've done here.
年終獎二月份發放是有原因的 There's a reason that the bonuses go out in February,
尤其是現在的大形勢下 especially in this climate.
你沒懂我的意思 You're not hearing me. (BREATHING HEAVILY)
大家養家需要錢 It's important that people can take care of their families.
我們辦事穩妥些不是更好嗎？ ANDREW: lsn't it better to play it safe?
以免發生任何風吹草動什麼的？ Hang on to any windfall jusi in case?
我要現在就發年終獎 I'm paying out the bonuses now.
這太瘋狂了 沒道理啊 MARK: But that's crazy. It doesn't make any sense.
- 彼得 - 伯尼 別傻了 - Peter. - Bemie, come on.
我沒要和你們討論 This isn't a fucking debate.
我現在就要發錢 L'm paying out the bonuses now. I'm taking care of everybody.
大家都仰仗著我來照顧
老爸 你還好嗎？ ANDREW: Dad, are you all right?
沒出什麼事吧？ What's going on with you?
我沒事 I'm okay.
你確定？ ANDREW: Okay, you're sure?
伯尼 告訴他們吧 PETER: Bernie, just tell them.
告訴我們什麼？ ANDREW; Tell us what?
怎麼了 老爸 發生什麼事了？ What is it, Dad? What's going on?
怎麼了 老爸？ What is it, Dad?
(SIGHS)
我得和你談談 I have to talk to you.
隨時都可以 ANDREW: You can. You know you can.
嗯 I know.
該死的玻璃 Fucking fishbowl here.
該死的玻璃 Fucking fishbowl.
是吧？ ANDREW: Huh?
裏面發生任何事 外面都看得清清楚楚 (STUTTERS) Everybody can see everything in here.
就不能安個百葉窗什麼的嗎？ How come we never got fucking blinds?
(PHONE RINGS)
- 喂？- 喂 露絲 RUTH: Hello? BERNIE: Hello, Ruth.
- 是我 - 我和孩子們要回家了 RUTH: Hi. BERNIE: The boys and I are heading home.
為什麼？ RUTH: Why?
我有事和你們說 BERNIE: Ihave to talk to you all.
好吧 RUTH: Oh. Okay.
- 我們很快就到 - 好 BERNIE: Yeah, we'll be home soon. RUTH: All right.
(VEHICLES HONKING)
是你身體出了問題嗎？ ls it your health?
不 (SIGHS) No.
(ELEVATOR WHIRRING)
(BEEPING)
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
我們去樓下的書房吧 Let's go in the study downstairs.
(DOOR CLOSES)
不知怎麼開口說 BERNIE: There's no way to... to sayit.
這一切都不是真的 None of it is real.
是個大騙局 It's all one big fucking lie.
- 什麼東西？- 投資報告 - MARK: What is? - The advisory.
都是假的 (STUTFERS) It's a fraud.
沒有什麼投資項目 There are no investments.
你說什麼呢？當然有項目啊 (CHUCKLES) What are you talking about? Of course there are investments.
- 都是我編出來的 - 寫得真真切切啊 I made them up.
- 都是我... 編出來的 - 我親眼見證了交易 They're on every statement.
-(STU1TERS) I made them up. -l've seen the trades.
都是假的 BERNIE: They're fake.
都是假的 (CLICKS TONGUE) It's all fake.
基本上就是個龐氏騙局 Basically, just a big Ponzi scheme.
什麼意思？ What's a Ponzi scheme?
我從投資人手裏拿錢 I took money from some people
把它們分給別人 從來都... and I gave it to others and I never...
沒什麼餘錢 There's nothing left.
本來應該有500億美元的 (STAMMERS) There's supposed to be $50 billion.
但實際上什麼都沒有 There's absoluiely nothing. It's all gone.
都沒了 我和彼得說了
下周我就去自首 I spoke to Peter. I told him I'm gonna turn myself in next week.
你怎麼能這麼做呢？ (SCOFFS) How could you do this?
- 我無法控制... - 胡說 - I just couldn't stop... - MARK: Bullshit.
事情越來越大 我控制不住了 It got bigger and bigger and itjust wouldn't stop.
胡說 Bullshit.
- 我沒想到事情會發展至此 - 不不不 - I didn't mean for it to get like this. - MARK: N0, no, no.
你怎麼能騙我們呢 我可是你的兒子啊 You can't do this. I'm your son.
老爸 你怎麼能這麼做呢？ Dad. Dad, how could you do this?
我會幫你們安排好的 BERNIE: I'm gonna set you guys up.
沒事的 Yeah. (STUTTERS) It's all gonna be okay.
還剩了幾億美元 There's still a few hundred million left.
我會確保 I'm gonna... I'm gonna make sure that you guys are all taken care of,
安頓好你們的
家裏人 還有那些忠實的員工 the rest of the family, some loyal employees.
我都會安頓好 一周時間就夠了 It's all gonna be good. ljust need a week.
(BREATHING HEAVILY)
用什麼安頓我們？ ANDREW: Set us up with what?
偷來的錢嗎？ With stolen money?
他犯了罪 MARK: He's a criminal.
餘生都要在監獄裏度過了 He's gonna spend his life in jail.
- 老爸 你怎麼可以這樣？- 我不認你這個爸爸 ANDREW: Dad, how could you do this? MARK: You're not my father.
我解釋給他們說 我不是故意的 (SIGHS)
I explained to them that it wasn't malicious.
期初我開始犯錯... That when I started this problem, or this crime,
犯罪的時候
我想著 that it was something that I thought I would be able to work my way out of.
一定有辦法解決的
但後來變得不可能了 But that became impossible.
我越掙扎 就越陷越深 The harder I tried, the deeper I dug myself into a hole.
歸根結底 But it comes down to one thing.
我拒絕承認這個事實 I refused to accept the fact,
我無法接受 could not accept the fact' that for once in my life I had failed.
這輩子有失敗的事實
我不承認 I couldn't... I couldn't admit that failure.
什麼失敗的事實？ And what was that failure?
(CLICKS TONGUE)
不久後 我... Shortly thereafter, I...
回到辦公室 (SIGHS) I think I went back to the office. Uh...
看到了安迪 Andy was there. I saw Andy.
你們說話了嗎？ Did you two speak?
他說... He did mention that...
說... That he, uh... (CLICKS TONGUE)
他和馬克兩個人在與律師協商 He and Mark were consulting with a lawyer.
結果 他去見了馬丁·倫敦 BERNIE: Well, as it turned out, he went to see Martin London,
一個德高望重的退休律師 much-honored lawyer, retired.
- 也是馬克的岳父 - 沒錯 DIANA: He's Mark's father-in-Iaw. BERNIE: Yes.
他給你的公司投資了一大筆錢 是吧？ DIANA: He'd invested a substantial amount of money with you, right?
比一般人的少一點 BERNIE: Well, more than some, less than others.
我了個老天啊 Jesus fucking Christ.
5000萬？ $50 million?
500億 $50 billion, with a "B."
我了個天 Jesus fucking Christ.
我在哈特福特 All right, l'm in Hartford. I'll be there at 3:00 p.m.
下午三點過去
你要知道 資金管理業務 You have to understand, the money management business
是在一個小辦公室操作的 was operating from a small offlce.
- 沒錯 那辦公室自己在獨立的一層 - 17層 - Yeah, the office is on a separate floor. - The 17th floor.
- 看上去一直很成功 - 有大把的客戶 -It's always seemed successful. - A ton of clients, I think.
- 和對沖基金 - 有時會把別人拒之門外 - Hedge funds. - He'd even turn people away sometimes.
- 但所有的交易... - 是的 But all the trades...
這些交易都通過了歐洲交易反方 Yeah, the trades go through European counterparties.
所以才在倫敦有了自己的辦公室 That's why he has the London offlce.
之後19層就是交易場所了 And then upstairs, on the 19th floor, is market-making.
- 也是我們工作的地點 - 目前這個都不重要 - Which is where we work. - These are not my immediate concerns.
但如果他打算花這周時間 But if he plans to spend the week
來分配這些不義之財 distributing his ill-gotten gains
給自己的親屬 amongst his relatives, employees, his friends,
僱員 朋友
那這件事就還沒完 then this is not over.
罪行就還在進行中 This is a crime in progress.
什麼意思？我們要去告發他嗎？ So what are you saying? We have to turn him in'?
你們不行 你們屬於共犯 You don't turn him in, you're an accomplice.
第二天早上
(PHONE RINGING)
喂？ Yeah?
嗯 好 Okay, it's all fine.
嗯 Yep.
誰的電話？ (HANGS UP)
RUTH: Who is it?
聯邦調查局要過來 BERNIE: The FBI is here.
我知道你們為什麼過來 I know why you're here.
我們過來問問 Well' we're here to find out if there's an innocent explanation.
你是不是要為自己辯解一下
(DOOR CLOSES)
沒什麼好辯解的 There is no innocent explanation.
我們去找個方便說話的地方吧 Is there someplace we can talk privately?
進來吧 In there.
他說 20世紀70年代起 AGENT: He said he'd been operating a Ponzi scheme since the 1970s.
他就開始操作龐氏騙局了
他敘述得很平淡 He was so matter-of-fact about it.
毫無緊張和擔憂之色 He wasn't nervous, he wasn't afraid.
平平常常 He was just very casual.
他聲稱一切都是自己一人操作的 Well, sir, he claims to have acted alone.
是 長官 YES, sir.
我帶他回局裏 I'll bring him in.
(SIGHS)
喂 我是露絲 Hi, it's Ruth. Are the boys there?
孩子們都在場嗎？
他們不在 They're not there.
他今天不過去了 He won't be coming in today.
先生 請你解下腰帶 Sir, you're gonna have to remove your belt, your shoelaces, your tie and any jewelry.
鞋帶 領帶
並卸下所有首飾
- 這個也要？- 是的 BERNIE: This? AGENT: Yep.
信用卡 現金 Credit card, cash, anything in your pockets, sir.
兜裏東西請清空
請轉身過去 Turn around, please' sir.
雙手背後 Hands behind your back.
合掌 Palms together.
(HANDCUFFS CLINKING)
把東西收起來 Put that stuff away.
給艾克·索爾金打個電話 And call Ike Sorkin.
(DOOR OPENS)
(DOOR CLOSES)
(TIRES SCREECH)
2008年12月9日發生了什麼？ INVESTIGATOR: What happened on the night of December 9, 2008?
我哥哥告訴我 PETER: My brother told me
他的投資咨詢業務 that his, uh, investment advisory business was a Ponzi scheme.
就是個龐氏騙局
你聽說麥道夫先生在一手操控的時候 INVESTIGATOR: And what was your reaction to hearing that Mr. Madoff
是什麼反應？ was operating a Ponzi scheme?
我徹底震驚了 Well, I was in total shock.
在政府對你的第一次採訪中 INVESTIGATORI In your first interview with the government,
你表示對自己的哥哥像偶像般崇拜 you stated that you idolized your brother.
- 是吧？- 沒錯 - Is that correct? - PETER: Yes, and that's correct.
為什麼呢？ INVESTIGATORI Why did you idolize your brother?
因為他很睿智 PETER: Well, because he was brilliant.
他是大家津津樂道的話題人物 Everywhere you g0, people talked about Bernie.
是真正的領航人 He was a true pioneer.
行業裏的所有人 Everyone in the industry,
包括美國證券交易委員會的最高官員 including the highest-ranking ofiicials at the SEC,
紐約聯邦調查局 刑事法庭 believed that my brother was
都認為我哥哥
是這個時代 最可敬 one of the most honorable and, uh, and successful traders of our time.
最成功的交易員之一
沒有人比我更堅信 Uh, nobody believed that more than I did.
更仰慕他 (STUTFERING) Uh, I revered him.
我內心深處非常信任他 I trusted him implicitly.
(LINE TRILLING)
- 我是索爾金 - 艾克 我是伯尼 - IKE: (OVER PHONE) Sorkin. -lke, it's Bernie.
我被聯邦調查局總部 Uh, I'm down at FBI headquarters, handcuffed to a wall.
抓進去了
伯尼 什麼都不要說了 IKE: Bernie, don't say another woml.
今早我們逮捕了他 AGENT: We arrested him this morning.
他還好嗎？ ANDREW: Was he okay?
我親自給他戴上了手銬 I pui the cuffs on him myself.
他表現得很平靜 就像知道我們要來一樣 He went quietly, as though he expected us.
事實上 To be honest,
他看上去如釋重負 he looked relieved.
你做的是對的 孩子 You did the right thing, son.
(BEEPING)
右轉 -(CAMERA CLICKING) - MAN: Turn 1o the right.
嗯 聯邦調查局剛剛 (STAMMERS) Yeah, the FBI just processed him
把他轉移到了珍珠大街 and they transferred him over to Pearl Street.
我們正往那趕呢 Yeah, we're heading in right now.
你是通過交易賺錢 So you were making money off of the trades.
沒有所謂的交易 There were no trades.
- 什麼意思？- 都是我編出來的 - What do you mean there were no trades? - I made them up.
- 不是有報告嗎？- 每個月更新一次假報告 - Weren't there statements? - Every month. They were fake.
購買日期是假的 Purchase dates, they were fake. Shares, they were fake.
股份分配是假的 期權是假的 Options, they were fake. Returns, they were fake.
收益回報是假的
你上一次執行交易 是什麼時候？ So when was the last trade you executed?
15年前 Fifteen years ago.
這件事還有誰知道？ Who else knew?
這都是我一手操控的 I acted alone.
他是什麼時候告訴你龐氏騙局的開始的？ INVESTIGATOR: When did he tell you he started this Ponzi scheme?
他沒有告訴我 He didn't.
整個騙局的操作過程 你一無所知？ INVESTIGATORI And the entire time he was running it, you had no idea?
- 我一無所知 - 你在公司是什麼職務？ No, ldidn't.
CACIOPPI: And whai was your role at the firm?
90年代起 我就開始負責交易商自動報價 ANDREW: I ran the firm's NASDAQ desk in the late '90s,
2001年起負責市商 added the rest of the market-making desk in 2001,
2003年改做自營 and, uh, moved to the proprietary trading desk in 2003...
你在答非所問 CACIOPPI: You're not answering my question.
你在公司是做什職務？ What exactly is your role at the firm?
每周我只有幾天來公司 ANDREW: I'm only in the office a few days a week.
我一直在做一個叫麥道夫能源的分業經營... I've been building a separate business called Madoff Energy...
先生 你在土地管理局是什麼樣的頭銜？ Sir, what is your exact title at BLM?
自營交易主管 Director of Proprietary Trading
和交易主任 and Co-director of Trading.
這些貸款都是從哪來的呢？ INVESTIGATOR: And where did the money for these loans come from?
你哪裏來的貸款買下辦公室 The loans that allowed you to buy your loft in Soho,
格林威治和楠塔基特島的房子 your house in Greenwich, your house in Nantucket.
我擅用了他投資的盈利 I assume from the money he made through investments.
以私人顧問的身份嗎？ INVESTIGATOR: On the private advisory side?
- 是的 - 在17層的辦公室內？ Yes.
- 是的 - 而你卻從未過問 17層的辦公室是做什麼的？ -LNVESTIGATORI On the 17th floor'? - Yes.
And you never asked what went on on the 17th floor?
我當然問過 (SCOFFS) Of course I did.
- 是嗎？- 是的 INVESTIGATOR: You did?
- 但是... - 怎樣？ Yes.
- But... (CLEARS THROAT) - But what'?
他總說 (SIGHS) He would always say,
"我們互不干涉" "You run your business and I'll run my business."
所以你也再沒有 INVESTIGATOR: And you never thought to
想著關注這些問題？ follow up on those questions?
- 你不懂... - 我當然不懂 - You don't understand... - You're right, I don't.
我不懂的是 I don't understand
你怎麼可能同你父親共事20年 how you could work in the same office as your father
卻絲毫不起任何疑心 for 20 years and suspect noihing.
絲毫不起？ Nothing?
你父親的客戶是什麼人？ Who are some of your father's clients?
我不太知情 ANDREW: I'm not privy to all of them,
傑弗裏·皮考爾是個大戶
but, uh, Jeffry Picower was a big one.
還有紐約大都會隊的佛瑞德·威爾彭和索爾·卡茨 Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz of the Mets.
匯豐銀行 蘇格蘭皇家銀行 HSBC, Royal Bank of Scotland,
還有些家裏方面的朋友 馬蒂 some family friends, Marty.
但他從來不具體談自己的工作 But he wouldn't talk about who or what he did for them.
我們的錢也攥在他的手裏 Our money was with him as well.
所以你從未懷疑過你父親？ INVESTIGATORI So you were never suspicious of your father?
從來都沒有嗎？ Never?
你知道他的身份嗎？ Do you not understand who he was?
我想我們都已經開始 I think we're all beginning to understand exacfly who your father is, Mr. Madoff.
對你的父親有所瞭解了 麥道夫先生
他不僅是我的父親 He wasn't just my father.
我們把他視作偶像來崇拜 You know, he was fucking idolized.
我們所說的這個人 We're talking about a man who created the modern market as we know it.
開拓了現代市場
創辦了納斯達克 He created NASDAQ.
他是納斯達克的主席 - He's Chairman of NASDAQ. -(INVESTIGATOR CLEARS THROAT)
全國證券交易清算公司主席 He's Chairman of the National Securities Clearing Corporation,
國際證券清算公司主席 Chairman of the International Securities Clearing Corporation,
全國證券交易商協會主席 Chairman of the National Association of Securities Dealers,
美國金融業監管局的改良人 which was FINRA before FINRA fucking existed.
新航交易委員會主席 Chairman of the SIA Trading Committee...
我懂你的意思 - Okay, we understand your point, sir... - MARK: No, I don't think you do.
- 先生... - 你不懂 Chairman of the National Business Conduct Committee.
國家商業行為委員會主席
我們懂 Sir, we understand.
新航聯邦監管委員會成員 Member of the SIA Federal Regulation Committee.
- 可以了 先生 - 美國 - Sir, that's enough. - Chairman of the NASD
全國航空航天局小訂單執行委員會主席 Small Order Execution Committee.
你問我為什麼毫不知情 I mean, you're asking me how I didn't know.
那我來問問你 Well, I'm asking you.
你們來自聯邦調查局和美國證券交易委員會 You're the FBI, you're the SEC.
之前也調查過他 (STAMMERS) You investigated him before, so I'm asking you!
那麼請問
你怎麼會毫不知情呢？ How the fuck did you not knovfl
現在不是你問我們的時候 Sir, we are not the focus here. You are.
你說自己從未涉足 You're saying that you never stepped foot on the 17th floor?
17層的辦公？
是的 No.
為什麼呢？
And why not?
17層
2008年12月11日的早上 發生了什麼 AGENT: What happened on the morning of December 11 th, 2008?
我在辦公室 FRANK: Uh, I was in my office and, uh, Igot a telephone call.
接到一個電話
是誰打來的？ AGENT: Who was on the phone?
是伯尼·麥道夫 - FRANK: It was, uh, Bernie Madoffl -(PHONE RINGS)
他說什麼？ AGENT: What did Bernie Madoff say to you?
喂？ Yeah?
我哥哥弗蘭克來辦公室了... FRANK: "Frank, my brother is in the office..."
- 什麼？- 身後跟著聯邦調查局的人 - What? -"...with the FBI."
什麼鬼？ What the fuck?
你最開始為伯尼·麥道夫做事 AGENT: How old were you when you first started working for Bernie Madoff?
是多大的時候？
19歲 I was 19 years old.
你怎麼接觸到他的？ AGENT: In what capacity had you known him?
他是我的老闆 0h, well, he was my boss.
這些年來 你為他做的都是什麼樣的事？ What type of work had you done for him over the years?
我什麼都做 Uh, really' anything he asked me to.
從跑腿捎信 Everything from, you know, running errands
到管理投資咨詢部門 to, uh, running his investment advisory department.
你知道聯邦調查局的人為什麼在彼得·麥道夫辦公室嗎？ Did you know why the FBI was at Peter MadofFs office?
知道 (CHUCKLES)
Yes, Idid.
對你有什麼影響？ And what did that mean to you?
會牽扯我去坐牢 Uh, it meant that I was going to jail.
你為什麼這麼想？ AGENT: Why did you think you were going to jail?
因為我對辦公室的運行機制瞭如指掌 FRANK: Because I was well aware of the nature of the operation.
是什麼樣的運行機制？ AGENT: And what was the nature of the operation?
簡單說來... It was a fraud,
是個騙局 simply put.
我一直都以為 (DOOR CLOSES)
FRANK: I always though! that Bemie would be able to make it good, you know?
伯尼能把事情處理好 He had money here, he had money there, he moved stufi' around.
這裏投錢 那裏投錢 翻來覆去
一直在轉移資產 There was always a lot of moving parts.
或許是我在自欺欺人吧 Maybe I was lying to myselt
或許吧 我以為... I don't know, but I... I thought he...
我以為他可以做到的 I thought he could cover it.
(PEOPLE MURMURING)
這是什麼情況？ What the hell is this?
伯尼因為證券欺詐被逮捕了 Bernie's been arrested for securities fraud.
美國證券交易委員會拿到了法院命令 The SEC's getting a court order to seize control and shut us down.
要奪取控制權 讓我們停工
都不經調查嗎？ Without an investigation? What could they possibly know?
他們知道什麼了？ Whatever Bernie told them.
那要看伯尼說什麼了吧
先生 剛才是哪位？ Sir, who was that gentleman?
這的一個同事 He's... Uh, he works here.
- 哪個部門的？- 17層的 Where?
(STUTFERS) Uh, on the 17th floor.
有17層？ There's a 17th floor'?
(KEYPAD BEEPING)
安妮特 伯尼因為證券欺詐被逮捕了 Annette, Bernie's been arrested for securities fraud.
美國證券交易委員會和聯邦調查局的人就在樓上呢 The SEC and the FBI are upstairs right now.
什麼？ What?
什麼情況？ The hell does that mean?
我們需要你的門卡 女士 We need your keycard, ma'am.
快 快啊 Come on, come on, come on. Please, please, God. Come on, come on.
拜託了 快啊
(EXHALES)
開門 -(BEEPING) - AGENT: Open it.
聯邦調查局！都不許動！ FBI! Everyone stop what you're doing!
聯邦調查局！都不許動！ FBI! I said stop what you're doing right now.
正在清空回收站 還需6分鐘
離開電腦！ Move away from the computer!
聯邦調查局 不要碰電腦 Sir, FBI. Do not touch that computer.
離開電腦！ I said, move away from the computer!
丹 把他們疏散出去 - MAN: Hey, Dan, walk this group out. -(SIGHS)
咨詢是完全獨立的交易 BERNIE: The advisory was a completely separate business,
完全獨立的部門 a completely separate entity.
不該同其它部門撞見 Never the two should meet, ever, and they didn '1.
也沒有撞見過
我是故意這樣安排的 And I made it that way on purpose, obviously.
你哥哥呢？彼得有麻煩了 DIANA: What about your brother?
- 是的 - 因為他信任你 聽了你的話 - Peter's in trouble. - BERNIE: Yes.
DIANA: Because he trusted you.
- 是的 - 你還讓他做這些 - He did what you told him to. - Yes, he did.
And you told him to do things that exposed him
把自己暴露在刑事責任前的事 to this criminal liability he's facing right now.
就這件事你該如何辯護呢 伯尼？ How did you justify that, Bernie?
不會寢食難安嗎？ How did you sleep with that?
我猜我之所以安心 I guess the way I could sleep with it is that I knew that Peter didn't know anything,
是因為我知道彼得毫不知情
即便我叫他去做一些 even though I had him do things
他根本沒有意識到 which he didn't realize could've implicated him in this...
能夠把自己捲入這項...
這項... ln1his...(SIGHS)
罪行的事 (CLICKS TONGUE)
crime.
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
伯尼總是在刺激別人 ELEANOR: Bernie was always needling people.
他會找到並刺激你的弱點 He would find your weak spot and he would poke at it.
這才是伯尼 真的很混蛋 I mean, that was Bernie and he could be a real bastard.
但他不會這樣 But not like ihis.
偷偷摸摸地竊取別人的錢 I mean, not stealing people's money.
起初我也在想 I mean, at first, I started thinking,
"天 是不是孫子被綁架了 "My God, you know, did one of the grandchildren get kidnapped?
那1000萬被拿來做贖金了？" "Was the $10 million ransom money?"
什麼1000萬？ What $10 million?
露絲從考麥德賬戶 The $10 million that Ruth came in
取走1000萬 and withdrew from her Cohmad account
轉入了她的美聯銀行賬戶 and transferred into her Wachovia account.
我怎麼能知道呢？ I mean, I... (STAMMERS) What do I know'?
我那麼愛看犯罪故事 I mean, l'm always watching crime stories, you knovfl
每晚都伴著《特殊受害者》入眠 (STUTFERS) I fall asleep every night to SVU.
你是說 12月10日那天 And you're saying on December 10th,
露絲·麥道夫從考麥德賬戶取走1000萬 Ruth Madoff withdrew $10 million from her Cohmad account
轉入了一個個人賬戶？ and transferred it to a personal amount?
是的 這也是常事 Yes, but that is not unusual.
就像自己家客廳裏 I mean, think of it like having an ATM in your, you know, your living room.
安了個自動提款機一樣
事情發生的時候 Except, you know, when things are going on, you wonder.
當然會比較好奇
伯尼·麥道夫 谷歌搜索 -(MOUSE CLICKS) -(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
媽媽來啦！ GIRL: Mommy's here!
別忘了拿上你的球 -(SHOUTS) - STEPHANIE: Don't forget your ball.
我們要去康乃迪克州待上幾天 We're gonna go to Connecticut for a few days.
你知道可能會下雪嗎？ You know it might snow'?
還沒有他被逮捕的報道 No mention of his arrest yet.
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
- 是我媽媽打來的 - 不要接 -lt's my mom. - Don't answer.
佛路門巴姆說過... You know what Flumenbaum said.
要斷絕聯繫 (STAMMERS) No contact. Don't screw around, Mark.
不要惹事情 馬克
(MUSIC BOX TINKLING)
- 嗨 媽媽 - 嗨 馬克 - Hi, Mom. - Hi, Mark.
親愛的 我和你父親在一起 -(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) - Honey, I'm, um, with your father
他們說 要保釋你父親 and in order to release him on bond,
需要四個人的簽名 they need four signatures.
這可是1000萬啊 It's a $10 million bond.
- 什麼？- 真是不敢相信 - What? - Ugh.
lknow. Can you believe?
你能過來一趟嗎？ Anyway, can you get down here? (STUTFERS) I'll text you the address.
我把地址發你
媽媽 Mom,
你清楚他都做了些什麼嗎？ do you understand what he's done?
別這樣 馬克 我知道你很生氣 No, honey, Mark, I know you're angry, but he's your father.
但他是你的父親啊
我不接受 不說了 I'm not doing it. End of discussion.
馬克 Mark.
我試試給安迪打個電話 l'll try Andy.
你說的誤會是什麼意思？ What do you mean by misunderstanding?
你兒子們不同意簽字 We couldn't get your sons to sign.
他們不同意？ They wouldn't sign?
很抱歉 麥道夫先生 WOMAN: l'm sorry, Mr. Madoff.
他們不同意簽字？ (STUTTERS) The boys wouldn'i sign the bond?
非常抱歉 先生 I'm very sorry, sir.
是你聯繫的他們還是... (STAMMERING) Who... Did you talk to them or did...
不 您妻子挨個給他們打的電話 No. Your wife was on the phone with each of them.
媽媽打電話 他們也不... Their mother did and they didn't... They wouldn't...
Um...
不牽扯錢的事情 (STAMMERING) Well, there's no money involved in it.
這個他們都清楚嗎？ So did they understand that?
是的 Yes.
好吧 Hmm. I don't know.
馬克 我是丹尼爾·霍維茨 Marc, it's Daniel Horwitz.
我們收集不全四個人的簽名 We couldn't get the four signatures,
但是可以拿到露絲 but I can gei you Ruth and, um, Peter MadofPs.
和彼得·麥道夫的
稍等 Okay, hold on.
你是否接受帶有電子監控監視的 Will you submit to, um, home detention with electronic monitoring and surveillance?
家庭軟禁
且將曼哈頓 蒙托克 棕擱灘的房屋進行抵押 Homes in Manhattan, Montauk, and Palm Beach will be pledged,
並且上交你們夫妻雙方的護照 and yours and Ruth's passports will be surrendered.
你都接受嗎？ - Are those terms okay with you? - Um...
我接受 Yeah.
他同意了 太好了 - He says yes. Great. -(CELL PHONE BUZZES)
- 好的 -《日報》剛剛在網上登出新聞 OKHY-
WOMAN: Um, The Journal just went online with the story.
媒體20分鐘後到 We have 20 minutes before the press descends on this place.
來吧 DAN: Let's do this.
(ZIP TIE ZIPPING)
麥道夫先生 - MAN: Mr. Madoff. -(CAMERAS CLICKING)
今晚華爾街發生了奇怪驚人的 REPORTER: It's very strange and troubling news out of Wall Street tonight.
大新聞
前納斯達克證券交易所主席伯納德·麥道夫 Former NASDAQ Stock Exchange Chairman Bernard Madoff
因1000萬美元債券糾紛出局 out on $10 million bond.
這位德高望重之人 This man with a stellar reputation
似乎是洗劫了 seems to have taken a whole lot of very smart people to the cleaners.
無數聰明人
這個大家放心投資的人 The man they trusted the most with their money,
18年前的納斯達克主席 a NASDAQ Chairman 18 years ago,
先向當局坦白 is now confessing lo authorities he cheated them of billions of dollars.
已詐騙數十億美元
大批投資人 And there's a bunch of big-time investors wondering
非常好奇這個叫伯納德·麥道夫的人 how a guy named Madoff made off with their money.
是如何捲走他們的資產的
(RUTH SIGHS)
接下來會發生什麼 伯尼？ What's gonna happen, Bernie?
- 不清楚 - 你會入獄嗎？ - I don't know. - Are you gonna go to jail?
或許吧 Probably.
會多久？ For how long?
- 我不知道 露絲 - 很久 還是一陣？ - I don't know' Ruth. - For a long time or a little?
不知道 I don't know.
- 怎麼？- 不知道 - What? - I don't know.
他們會收走我們的公寓嗎？ Are they gonna take the apartment away?
- 不知道 - 我們的房產呢？ - I don't know. - What about the houses?
我們的兒子、孫子們呢？ What about the boys and the grandkids?
- 夠了 露絲 - 我只想知道 如果... - Ruth. Ruth' enough. - Look, ljust wanna know if...
很抱歉我問題有點多 伯尼 I'm sorry ifl have questions, Bernie.
很抱歉我有點受驚了 I'm sorry if I'm a little scared, okay?
只是你從來都不和我說明真相 It's just you always keep me in the dark.
我這是為了保護你 I keep you in the dark to protect you.
可我再無被保護的感覺了 Yeah, well, it doesn't feel that way anymore.
我只想知道會發生什麼 I just wanna know whafs going on.
拜託了 伯尼 不要再瞞著我了 Please, Bernie, don't keep me in the dark anymore.
告訴我吧 Just tell me.
告訴我 Tell me.
告訴你什麼 露絲？ Tell you what, Ruth?
(CRYING)
我也不知道 Just tell me, I don't know...
你做了什麼 What you did.
(SNIFFLES)
初遇露絲的時候 她13 我16 BERNIE: Imet Ruth when she was 13. Iwas 16.
當時是在一個朋友家地下室的派對上 A friend was having a party in his basement.
自動唱片機出了點問題 Something had happened to the jukebox.
他搬機器的時候把機器搞壞了 It got knocked around when he was moving it,
只會單曲循環一首歌 so the only song it'd play was Sh-Boom over and over.
當時的她是個小個子的金髮美女 She was this tiny, little blonde
有著漂亮的藍色眼睛 with enormous blue eyes.
太美了 Just gorgeous.
人也很有趣 Very funny, too.
你還記得那個叫戈爾迪·霍恩的演員嗎？ You remember that aciress Goldie Hawn?
- 當然 - 露絲就是那個樣子的 DIANA: ldo, very well. BERNIE: Yeah, that was Ruth.
每天早晨醒來的她都不諳世事 She'd wake up every morning without a care in the world.
活潑 可愛 Very lively' very bubbly.
受人喜歡 Popular, too.
- 你呢 受人歡迎嗎？- 是啊 Were you popular?
當時我是個救生員 0h, yeah. I mean, I was a lifeguard at the time.
那是我做過最棒的工作 Bestjob I ever had.
與其在岸上做個普通人 I mean, whyjust be some regular schnook on the beach
不如爬上守衛塔 when you can be in a guard tower, everyone looking up at you?
讓大家仰望 - And you get paid. - Did Ruth ever get jealous?
- 還有工錢可以拿 - 露絲不會心生嫉妒嗎？
整個那年夏天 BERNIE: For the rest of the summer,
她每天都在守衛塔陪我 she laid out right next to the guard tower every day.
有時候我低頭衝她吹口哨 Sometimes I'd whistle down at her and she'd look up and call me a dog.
她會抬頭叫我狗狗
我喜歡她陪我的時候 But I liked having her there. It felt good.
很喜歡
我們認識那天起 I mean, we've basically been together every day since the night we met.
基本上天天都膩在一起
馬上就是我們在一起的第51個紀念日了 It's our 51st anniversary coming up.
你是怎麼做到保守秘密的？ Mmm. How do you think you were able to keep it all separate?
16年了 (CLICKS TONGUE) For 16 years, I kept this secret from my wife, my brother,
這個秘密不讓我妻子
兄弟
兒子們知道 my sons.
(BERNIE SIGHS)
我是怎麼做到 How I was able to do that and maintain any degree of sanity,
還能保持些許清醒頭腦的
嗯... well, it's, uh...
我想到的時候就會很擔心 That worries me when I think about it.
(THE GREAT PRETENDER PLAYING)
蒙托克海灘 2008年夏天
- 這些都是新鮮的嗎？- 是的 先生 - Those are fresh? - Yes, sir.
真的都很新鮮嗎？ They are really fresh?
- 今早現殺的 - 不是現解凍的？ - Fresh this morning. - Not freshly frozen'?
- 不是的 先生 - 是新鮮的就好 - No, sir. Fresh' fresh. - Okay.
盤子都檢查好 Check all the plates.
不要有沒有清洗乾淨的 Make sure that none of them are dirly, please.
我不希望有人用不乾淨的盤子吃東西 I don't want anybody coming here and eating on a dirty plate.
他們拿起紙巾 They pick up a napkin,
你拿起紙巾 you pick up a napkin and then you have dirt under there like this.
這個上面有灰
這個盤子是髒的 - This one. See? Dirty plate. -(CLATFERS)
確保所有盤子都是乾淨的 Make sure 1hey're all clean.
你在伯納德·麥道夫投資證券公司 INVESTIGATOR: What was your job title
是什麼職銜？ at Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities?
首席合規官 Chief Compliance Officer.
我不經手公司的財務權益 I never had any financial interest in the firm.
伯尼明確表示 無意向繼續合作 Uh, Bernie made it clear that, uh, there was no prospect for partnership.
(SH-BOOM PLAYING)
埃莉諾 Eleanor.
我們兩個誰更帥 他還是我？ So who's the more handsome brother, him or me?
這個段子太老了 花花公子 All right, we've all heard this one, Casanova. Come on.
- 說吧 - 我認為嗎？ ELEANOR: In my opinion?
說實話 Be honest.
- 彼得要有魅力得多 - 哦 - Peter“s way more attractive. - Oh.
你比較喜歡那種 So you've got a thing for barrel-chested bald men with big stomachs?
大胸肌啤酒肚地中海的男人咯？
去你的！ - Screw you! -(ELEANOR LAUGHS)
說真的 伯尼 ELEANOR: In fact, Bernie,
我第一次見到彼得的時候 對自己說 when I first met Peter, I said to myself,
"天啊 這男人像極了李·梅傑斯" "My God, this man looksjust like Lee Majors."
- 帥氣的很 - 謝謝 埃莉諾 - Handsome. - Thank you, Eleanor.
那可是25年前的事了 Yeah, that was 25 years ago.
那時候即便你都還是有魅力的 埃莉諾 Back then, even you were afiracflve, Eleanor.
夠了 伯尼 ELEANOR: Stuff it, Bernie.
我知道你暗戀我 不要掩飾了 You know you got a thing for me. Do noi lie.
沒錯 這是真的 You're right, I do. Come here.
- 過來 - 你知道我是愛你的 ELEANOR: You know I love you.
(BOTH LAUGHING)
我得四處走走了 I gotta make the rounds.
彼得 可別讓他接近你 ELEANOR: Peter, do not let him get to you, that one.
我都習慣了 I'm used to it, believe me.
(SH-BOOM CONTINUES PLAYING)
有什麼好看的？ The fuck you looking at?
安妮特 你要是心臟病犯了 Annette, you have a fucking heart attack, I'm not giving you mouth-to-mouth.
我可不會給你做人工呼吸
我先說清楚 Just so we're clear.
你可不想那樣吧 Behind you is not the place to be.
你在麥道夫證券的賬戶上 INVESTIGATORI Your accounts at Madofi Securities
總共有將近5000萬美元 had a total of approximately $50 million.
- 對吧？- 沒錯 - Is that correct? - Yeah, that's correct.
你難道不覺得奇怪 Did it strike you as absurd
一個學歷只有高中的人 that someone with just a high school education
會有這麼多錢麼？ should have that kind of money?
當然不奇怪 我非常幸運 No! lwas very, very lucky.
就像中彩票一樣？ Kind of like winning the lottery?
就像中彩票一樣 (CHUCKLES) Kind of like winning the lottery.
你有沒有想過 Did it occur to you
你賬戶上有這樣的 because you had this great account and it was worth so much,
巨額數字
不會有什麼欺騙性的貓膩嗎？ there must be something fraudulent there?
我從沒這樣想過 No. I never thought of the word "fraudulent."
以我的經驗 In my experience, and I mean this, there's only four different types of pussy.
只有四種不同種類的陰道
我是非常嚴肅認真的 Okay? I'm dead serious.
我指給你們看 You got your... Let me show you. I just saw one.
那邊那個看到沒？ All right, right there. See there?
是本田思域類 That's your Honda Civic pussy.
你想去哪就帶你去哪 Gets you where you wanna go. No shame in this pussy at all.
這種小妞毫無恥辱感
可靠 -(LAUGHTER) - Reliable. You jusi, you know,
你一定不希望被看到 you're not gonna be proud to be seen riding around town in it, am I right?
在城裏滿哪亂搞吧？
- 對事不對人 - 聊什麼呢？ - Nothing against her. - What's going on?
弗蘭基大談世界觀 It's ihe world acoording to Frankie over here.
看那邊那個 FRANK: Right there. You see that there?
是別克君威類 That's your Buick Regal pussy.
比第一類高級些 Okay? A step up from the Honda.
所以也乾淨些 Uh, generally, they're cleaner, okay?
更寬敞 可容納更多乘客 Roomier, you fit more passengers in there.
利弊皆有吧 I guess there's pros and cons to that in a pussy.
很可愛的一類 You know, lovely pussy.
總不可能和奔馳類搞混 對吧？ Nobody's gonna mistake it fora Benz, though, am I right?
對吧 羅伯特？ Am I right, Robert?
謝謝 上帝保佑你 Okay, thank you. God bless you.
我只想告訴你 Ijust want you to know, despite everything you see,
儘管你看到那麼多 Andrew is not from money.
但是安德魯並不是什麼有錢人
- 不不 - 他沒什麼錢 - Oh. No, no. - He's not from money.
我沒有... (STAMMERS) I'm not... I'm not...
我知道你可能覺得他很有錢 I know you might think he's a rich guy, but he's not.
但並不是
我們什麼都沒有 我父親破產了 - We're from nothing. My father was broke. -(CHUCKLES)
我們沒什麼財產 We're not rich people. We're humble people.
- 好吧 - 懂了？ - Okay. - You understand?
嗯 Yes.
- 過來 - 哦 - Come here. - Oh. (CHUCKLES)
哦！
我真想扯條水管來 I'm gonna have to get out the hose
衝他臉上噴水 -and spray him. -(LAUGHS)
接下來 就是我個人最喜歡的一類了 Next up, my personal favorite. I just saw one.
剛看到一個
在那邊 不要表現得很明顯 There. Now, don't make it obvious.
這個是林肯大陸類 Right there. That is your Linooln Continental pussy.
美麗得剛剛好 Beautiful. Just... It's just right.
恰到好處 You know what I mean? Like Goldilocks, just right.
不太華貴 不很平庸 It's not too fancy, it's not too plain.
看著很舒服 -It just... lfsjust comfortable. Itjust fits. -(LAUGHTER)
不多不少
就像穿久了的拖鞋 No, no, ifs like an old pair of slippers
只不過不是穿在腳上 而是屌上 except instead of your foot, you put your cock in it.
- 我說錯了嗎？- 你有個女兒吧？ - Am I wrong? -(LAUGHTER)
You have a daughter, right?
嗯 叫蘇菲 我女兒很棒 Yeah, Sophie. She's wonderful.
真等不及想帶她見見你們 I... I can't wait for you to meet her.
她爸爸是誰來著？ And who's the father again?
是約翰 Um... Uh, John, my ex-partner at Urban Angler.
我上一個男朋友
你們沒有結婚嗎？ And you two never married?
沒 Um, no. No.
如果我未婚生育 If I had had a baby out of wedlock,
我父親會打爆我的頭 my father would have taken me out back and shot me.
(ALL LAUGH)
我是認真的 I'm not kidding, he would've shot me.
聽我說完 No, no, stay with me and hold all questions till the end.
最後再提問
- 好吧 - 那邊那個 - Okay. - Right there, you see that? Ugh.
少女的異想日記 There it... Read it and weep. It's your Mercedes-Benz pussy.
是梅賽德斯奔馳類
很美 Right? Look at it. I mean, ifs beautiful.
簡直就是一場陰道盛宴 -It's just a feat of vaginal engineering. -(ALL CHUCKLE)
手柄贊 No, it handles just great.
既光潔又緊致 It's sleek, it's tight, it looks good, it feels good, it smells good.
看上去 摸起來 聞起來都很贊
但維護費很高 Bui a lot of upkeep. Yeah?
花錢如流水 又要打蠟又要拋光的 Payments are murder and you gotta wax it, you gotta polish it,
既要陪聊又得傾聽 -you gotta talk to it, you gotta listen to it. -(ALL LAUGH)
最重要的 And, most importantly, you gotta remain ever-vigilant
還得時刻警惕
沒有人趁火打劫 that nobody fucking jacks it, right?
這個你就不必擔心了 You don't have to worry about that 'cause you'll never get near anything like that.
因為你沒機會接觸這樣的尤物的 (ALL LAUGH)
所以不用擔心 So don't worry about it.
是否可以說 INVESTIGATOR: ls it fair to say that as a result of all of lhese lies' you got rich?
這諸多謊言
帶給你了無盡財富？
女士 我不是靠撒謊賺錢的 Well, I didn't get paid per lie, ma'am.
麥道夫證券的騙局 As a product of the fraud that was Madoff Securities,
帶給你了無盡財富 這麼說對麼？ you got rich' correct?
沒錯 Yeah, that's correct, yeah.
據你描述 INVESTIGATOR: You built, as you described,
你在新澤西布裏奇沃特建了個豪宅 對麼？ a lavish home in Bridgewater, New Jersey, correct?
- 那要看你怎麼定義"豪宅"了 - 嗯 - Well, define "lavish." - Sure.
- 有幾個臥室？- 5個 - Uh, how many bedrooms did it have? - Five.
- 幾個洗手間？- 7個 - How many bathrooms? - Seven.
- 佔地多少英畝？- 7英畝 - How many acres? - Seven.
- 有泳池嗎？- 有 - Did it have a swimming pool? - Yes, it did.
- 有網球場嗎？- 沒有 - Did it have a tennis court? - It did not.
- 有池塘嗎？- 有 - Did it have a pond? - Yes, it did.
那麼你認為 So would you consider
一個佔地7英畝 有7個洗手間 seven acres, seven bathrooms, five bedrooms, a swimming pool,
5個臥室 一個泳池 a pond, a lavish home?
一個池塘的宅子 算不算豪宅呢？
大概算吧 (CLICKS TONGUE) l guess l might.
(SWEET CAROLINE PLAYING)
WOMAN: Whoo!
(museums)
(SINGING SWEET CAROLINE)
哇！
過來 Come here.
(ALL SINGING SWEET CAROLINE)
上個週末 我和斯蒂芬妮 Hey, by the way, you know,
去看了楠塔基特島上的房子 Stephanie and I went last weekend to see that house in Nantucket.
- 嗯... - 嘗嘗龍蝦 - You know... - You should try the lobster.
- 不了 - 聽我的 嘗嘗 - Oh, no, no, it's okay. - Trust me on the lobster.
嘗嘗吧 你好！ Try the lobster. Hey.
- 老爸 我... - 麻煩幫我兒子 Dad, you know I got...
- 拿份龍蝦來 - 我胃不太好 - Can you get my son a lobster, please? - I got a weak siomach.
麻煩給他拿份龍蝦來 Would you get him a lobster? Just...
需要我給你拿份龍蝦來嗎？ Would you like me to get you the lobster?
不用問他 拿就是了 What are you asking him for'? Just get him a lobster.
- 一會他會感謝我們的 - 說真的... - He'll thank us both later, okay? Seriously...
那房子什麼價位？ BERNIE: So, what's the price tag on this house?
大概6500萬 MARK: Uh, they got it at, like' six and a half,
但是可以講價 -but we'll talk them down. - BERNIE: Thafs what they're asking for?
他們要這麼多？ Yeah.
是的 I mean, it's, like, special. It's, like...
房子很特別
泳池遙望大海 It's got a pool' looks out over the ocean.
- 棒得超乎想像 - 嗯 - It's unbelievable. - BERNIE: Uh-huh.
我覺得我們還可以講講價 But I figure we can get them down a bit.
等下 Now, wait. That's the way you bring the lobster?
你就是這麼上龍蝦的？
對不起 先生 Apologies, sir.
我建議你端回去 Why don't you bring it back, take off the claws, open it up.
把鉗子卸掉 殼子打開
我付給你們的錢夠多了吧 I mean, I pay enough for this whole thing. Don't you guys know how to serve a lobster?
連龍蝦都不會上嗎？
對不起 我馬上回來 - Apologies. I'll be right back. - Okay, just bring it back properly.
去吧 回來的時候照我說的樣子 I mean, what is this?
- 這算什麼事啊 - 你想和我一起看看房子嗎？
- 我們可以下周去... - 我會去的 MARK: You wanna come see it with me?
- We could go down next week and... - BERNIE: l'll go see it.
價錢也可以談 - We can work on the price, too. - Yeah.
6500萬 或許可以從5000萬談起 - Six and a half, maybe we can start at five. - RUTH: That would be nice.
那還不錯 MARK: We could probably take a boat from Montauk.
我們或許可以從蒙托克弄艘船來
- 從港口出海... - 好主意 - We can go out of the harbor... - Good idea.
謝謝 Okay, thanks.
別吃那個 吃這個 So, don't eat that, eat this. Don't eat...
- 別吃... - 我不喜歡吃龍蝦 老爸 I don't like lobster, Dad.
我都不知道這個是哪來的 我猜是你媽媽... BERNIE: I don't even know why we had that. I guess your mother...
我吃龍蝦會胃脹 MARK: 'Cause it's not good on my stomach.
嘿 Hey, uh...
請把這個收走 Take this away, will you, please?
好的 先生 - Yes' sir. -(MUTl'ERING)
- 拿走吧 - 對不起 先生 - There you go. - WAITER: Apologies, sir.
沒事 BERNIE: Okay.
他真是蠻擅長道歉的 One thing he's good at is apologizing.
(SIGHS)
我在想 MARK: I guess l'm just wondering, what if something happens to you?
要是你出了什麼事可怎麼辦
我們都不太瞭解這個咨詢事務 We don't know the first thing about the advisory.
- 弗蘭克會處理的 - 得了吧 老爸 - Frank will handle it. - ANDREW: Come on, Dad.
我無意冒犯 但是弗蘭克... With all due respect, Frank's, uh...
弗蘭克怎麼了？ Frank's what?
他就是個白癡 Frank's an idiot.
他沒上過大學 You know, Frank never went to college.
今天白天 我聽見弗蘭克 I heard Frank comparing women's vaginas to automobiles
把女人的陰道比作汽車 earlier today.
他怎麼比喻 那是他的事情 Whether Frank is refined enough for your taste is irrelevant.
他對自己的工作很擅長 He's good at his job.
如果我有什麼閃失 If something were to happen to me,
他會很妥善安排好你們的 he'd fill you guys in on all the details you need to know.
如果弗蘭克給你使絆呢？ And what if Frank decides to screw you?
我都不知道你身價多少 十億？ I mean, I don't even know how much you're worth.
二十億？三十億？ Is it a billion?
$2 billion? Three?
如果你價值三十億 他非要少說十億 What if there's three and he says there's two
然後卷錢跑路了呢？ and takes a billion and rides off into the sunset?
別激動 Calm down, calm down.
東西都在銀行的保管箱裏 Every1hing is written down in a safe deposit box.
如果我有不測 If something were to happen to me,
你就咨詢我們的律師 他有辦法 you consult with our lawyers, and they'll handle it.
會妥善安排好一切 They'll fill you in on everything.
一切？ Everything, huh?
- 沒錯 - 祝你好運吧 - That's right, everything. Everything?
這談話沒法繼續了 You know, good luck. This conversation is impossible. Impossible!
- 真不知道我的話... - 沒法談了！ BERNIE: I don't understand why you can't understand what ljust said to you.
你有什麼聽不懂的
為什麼每次我們談到這個 You know, why is it that whenever this conversation oomes up,
你都設法逃避 不直面問題呢？ you find a way to wriggle out of giving me an answer?
是你們硬要提起來的 It comes up because you bring it up.
那是因為我們要做出打算 No, because we're trying to plan.
你們不提 就不會談到這個事 Well, if you don't bring it up, it won't oome up.
我只是想形成一個基本觀念 You know, l'm just trying to get a basic sense...
你不需要形成任何觀念 馬克 You don't have to get a sense of anything, Mark.
你不需要形成任何觀念 - You don't have to get a sense of anything. - Why is that too much to ask?
怎麼總有這麼多問題呢？ - I've told you. - Dad.
- 我說過了 這件事免談 - 老爸！老爸！ - This is something I don't talk about. - Dad!
聽我說 我不懂！ - Listen to me. I don't understand! -(STAMMERS) Are you...
什麼情況？你是白癡嗎？ Listen, what is wrong? Are you a fucking idiot?
你是白癡嗎？是嗎？ Are you a fucking idiot? I mean, answer me!
- 我不懂啊！- 你當然不懂了！ - I don't understand! - No, you don't understand!
你沒有必要懂！ You don't have to fucking understand!
你想接管公司 You're asking me about taking over the advisory
但現在連一個簡單的閉嘴的指令 and yet you can't even follow a simple fucking instruction
都聽不懂！ to shut the fuck up!
你不懂 You don't understand.
你也不會懂
別想了 Leave it alone.
好吧 OKHY-
對不起 I'm sorry.
- 晚安 - 我愛你 爸爸 - Good night. - I love you, Dad.
我也愛你 晚安 Love you. Good night.
(SH-BOOM PLAYING)
這裏的人們總是問我 為什麼我不想著逃跑呢 BERNIE: People here always ask me how come I never ran.
說實話 我沒想過會進監獄 But the truth is it didn't even occur to me.
可能是因為我沒想過 I guess it's because I never thought of what I was doing was stealing.
自己所做的事是偷竊吧
這是個650億美元的龐氏騙局 DIANA: Well, it was a $65 billion Ponzi scheme.
人們失掉了畢生積蓄 失掉了家庭 People lost their life savings, they lost their homes.
生活被摧毀了 Their lives were destroyed.
你沒想過這是偷竊？ You didn't think of that as stealing?
人們是信任你的 People felt safe with you.
- 嗯 但那都是... - 而你 - Yeah, but these were... - And yet,
背叛了所有人 you were betraying them all.
但那些人 Well, but these people, you know, they had a little greed in them, too.
也是有一點貪婪之心的
有點... There was a little bit of, you know...
他們不想努力 Look, you know, and they didn't wanna look too hard.
只想賺錢 They looked just far enough.
- 所以某種意義上講 他們也是共犯 - 伯尼 - So they're accomplices in some way, too. - Bernie...
因為信任你 所以你說他們是共犯？ Accomplices because they trusted you?
因為你值得信任 Accomplices because you were so trustworthy,
看著值得信任 而說他們是共犯？ you seemed so trustworthy.
是的 他們本身缺少那份正直 Yeah, but there's a lack of honesty on their behalf,
又不願為自己的行為負責 an unwillingness to take responsibility for their behavior.
- 你是說你的投資人？- 是的 - Your investors? - Yes.
你們這麼說 It takes a lot of chutzpah for you, of all people, to say that.
真是肆無忌憚
嗯... You know... (CLICKS TONGUE)
現在想起來 Nowthat I think of it... (SIGHS)
我最大的失誤... My greatest failure, or maybe it's my greatest weakness,
或者說我最大的弱點...
就是我總希望取悅人們 is I've always wanted to please people.
這一點... And thafs...
會給你惹上麻煩 That's one that can get you into trouble.
大早上我就待在這裏！ I've been here all fucking morning! I wanna go upstairs.
- 我要上樓 - 先生 現在任何人都不可以上樓
Sir, nobody's going upstairs right now.
我要見負責人 I wanna see somebody in charge.
- 當前我就是負責人 - 你在保護誰？ OFFICER: Right now, I'm in charge. MAN: Who are you protecting?
請退回去 OFFICER: And you need to back up right now.
這可是我 We're talking about my fucking life savings!
- 畢生的積蓄！- 我說了！ I told you right now!
- 你懂嗎？- 請退回去 先生 - Do you understand? Do you understand? - You need to back up right now, sir.
(LINE TRILLING)
(PHONE RINGING)
- 你好 麥道夫公司 - 我就在大廳裏 ELEANORI Hello, Madoff.
我要求上樓 MAN: I'm in the fucking lobby. I wanna come up.
先生 我現在 Sir, lam not able to give you permission to oome up here right now.
不能請你上樓
我的錢呢？ Where is my fucking money?
請撥打咨詢部門電話 You have to call the advisory arm. I can give you their number.
- 我可以提供他們的電話 - 去你的 你個賊！
Fuck you, you fucking thief!
老天啊 0h, my God.
伯尼眼中沒有特殊事件 ELEANOR: Unusual circumstances did not exist for Bernie.
就拿911舉個例子吧 Take 9/11.
雙子塔被擊中的時候 When those towers got hit,
樓裏所有人 everybody in the whole entire office
都圍在電視前面 was gathered around the TV.
有人大喊大叫 有人歇斯底里 Who was crying? Who was hysterical?
但伯尼沒有 Not Bernie.
他依舊埋頭工作 He kept his head down and he continued to work.
就好像 And it is not like he did not know anybody in those buildings.
他沒有認識的人
在雙子塔中一樣
當大家 DIANA: As with every event of personal devastation,
自身權益收到損害時
他們自己身在哪裏 they remember exactly where they were and what they were doing
正在做什麼事
都會記得清清楚楚 when they learned they were ruined.
(FAX MACHINE CLICKS AND WHIRS)
灰白色的紙張 DIANA: The grayish-white paper rolled out of Mary Thomajanis fax machine.
從瑪麗·湯馬真的傳真機中滾出
傳真來自一個小型支線基金 The fax was from the small feeder fund she had trusted for 18 years,
這支基金她信任了18年
傳真上面寫道 她的全部資產 telling her that all her money had been invested with Madoff,
都被授予給了一個叫麥道夫的
被捕的人 who had been arrested.
事後她回憶道 She later recalled,
"在讀完傳真的那50秒內 "In the 50 seconds it took to read that fax,
我從一個千萬富翁 "l went fmm being a multimillionaire
變成了一無所有之人 “to having my life savings wiped out
生活發生了天翻地覆的轉變" “and life as I knew it altered forever."
羅伯特·哈里歐的兒子給波拉卡頓的 Robert Halio's son called him at his retirement home
養老院中的他打了電話 述說了新聞 -in Boca Raton with the news. -(CELL PHONE RINGS)
錢全沒了 爸爸 MAN: It's all gone, Dad.
我不知道該怎麼辦 I don't... I don't know what to do.
他資產的95% DIANA: 95% of his wealth had been entrusted to Madoff
都被委託給了麥道夫公司 現在都打了水漂
and was now gone.
德拉維萊切特先生 Mr. de Ia Villehuchet had written his brother a letter that said,
給他兄弟寫了封信 上書
"如果你毀了你的朋友 客戶 "If you ruin your friends, your clients,
你就要面對後果" "you have to face the consequences."
他放了個垃圾簍 He then positioned a trash basket to protect the carpet
保護好地毯
就用美工刀割了腕 and slit his wrist with a box cutter.
提姆·默裏 明尼蘇達州的一個地產經理 Tim Murray, a property manager in Minnesota, was traveling and nearly drove off the road...
正在路上開車 差點偏離了路線...
福特·勞德代爾... - Fort Lauderdale... -(OVERLAPPING VOICES)
- 理查德·弗雷德曼... - 大衛·艾斯林... - Richan1 Friedman... - David Iselin...
(OVERLAPPING VOICES)
是時候該承擔後果了 伯尼 STEPHEN COLBERT: Time to pay the piper, Bernie.
或許... Presumably... -(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
Presumably with the life savings of another piper.
就是... - Just... -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
這可是既真正的金宇塔以來 This was the worst pyramid scheme since the actual pyramids.
最差的金字塔騙局了
(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
露絲喜歡 Ruth loves to go to the California Pizza Kitchen.
去加州比薩廚房吃飯
據說 她最喜歡的菜 And they say that her favorite dish there is the, uh, veal scal/o-Ponzll
就是油炸小牛"龐"
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) {DRUMS PLAY)
我有件很重要的事要告訴你 Listen, I have something to tell you that's really important.
你的錢在我手裏！我可以拿去給你 I have yourmoney! I can get it to you.
好吧 我猜你已經不在了 - Okay, I guess you're not there. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
他們可以看得清清楚楚 They can see right in.
- 他們可以看得清清楚楚 - 什麼呀 - They can see right in. - What?
我們沒有窗簾 (STAMMERS) We don't have any curtains.
他們什麼都看得見 They can see right in.
我一會打回給你 ANDREW: Hold on, let me call you back.
凱瑟琳 沒事的 Catherine, it's gonna be fine.
不 他們會用長焦鏡頭監視我們 CATHERINE: No, they're gonna be looking in with their long lenses and we'll be trapped.
我們被困在這裏了
他們在外面站站就會無趣走開的 They're gonna get bored just standing around.
我又不是故事的主角 I'm not the story.
必須趕快安上窗簾 We've gotta get curtains right now.
(SIGHS)
2008年聖誕前夜 (INDISTINCT CHATTER)
(ELEVATOR WHIRRING)
該死 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
Shit.
(DOORS OPEN)
(DOORS CLOSE)
嗨 你好嗎？ Hi, how are you?
我還好 I'm all right.
你呢？ You?
好多了 I've been better.
我相信 -L'll bet. -(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
- 媽媽 媽媽 - 怎麼了？ - Mommy, Mommy. - What?
- 她是不是露絲·麥道夫？- 傑西卡 不要說了 - Is that Ruth Madoff? - Jessica, not another word.
沒關係 It's okay.
不 有關係 No, none of it is.
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
她出來了 - MAN: There she is. -(ALL CLAMORING)
(MUSIC PLAYING)
- 嗨 薩拉 - 嗨 - Hi, Sarah. - Oh. Hi.
吉澤爾在嗎？我想 Is Gisele here'? I was wondering if she might be able to fit me in today.
今天我能不能排上隊
我已經好久沒有染髮了 I haven't had my hair colored in God knows how long.
- 我想她... - 沒事 - Um, I think she's... - No, don't worry. I'll find her.
- 我去找她 - 嗯... Uh...
15年了 我一直來這裏做頭髮 皮埃爾 RUTH: I've been coming here for 15 years, Pierre.
我知道 PIERRE: I understand.
我們有太多顧客 We have too many clients
因為你丈夫的緣故損失了不少錢 who have lost their money because of your husband.
我已經不再相信別人了 Bui I don't trust anyone else.
很抱歉 (STAMMERS) I'm very sorry, but I can't afford to risk my reputation.
但我不能拿自己的名譽做賭注
那上門服務呢？ What about a house call? I can pay extra.
我可以加錢
- 對不起... - 皮埃爾 -L'm sorry... - Pierre.
我得請你離開了 ...but I have to ask you to leave now.
抱歉 露絲 I'm sorry, Ruth.
- 該死 - 露絲！ - Shit. - BERNIE: Ruih!
- 你幹嘛呢？- 沒什麼 - What are you doing? - RUTH: Nothing!
你幹什麼呢？ -(CLATTERING) - What are you doing? Looking for something?
- 在找什麼嗎？- 找我的打火機 My lighter.
抽屜裏沒有火柴了嗎？ - Well, aren't there matches in the drawer'? - No.
- 沒有了 - 怎麼會沒有了？ No? What do you mean? There's always matches in the drawer.
- 抽屜裏一般都會放火柴的啊 - 用沒了 Well, we're out.
你上次在哪裏見到的？ Where'd you last see it?
我要是記得上次在哪見到的 Ifl knew where I last saw it, I wouldn't be looking for it, Bernie.
現在就不會到處找了 伯尼
(SIGHS)
我真是個白癡 I'm such an idiot.
為什麼我活到這麼大 How did I get to be this age without doing anything on my own?
都還沒有獨立做成過什麼呢？
你說什麼呢？ What are you talking about?
我一事無成 伯尼 (STUTFERS) I didn't do anything, Bernie.
沒有獨立完成過一件事 I never did one thing on my own.
沒有事業 沒有頭銜 I don't have a career, I don't have a name, I don't have any friends of my own.
沒有屬於自己的朋友
只有滿滿的悔悟 (SIGHS) The only thing I have are regrets.
只剩下這些了 That's all I got to show for myself.
- 一個接一個的悔悟 - 露絲 現在一定要這樣嗎？ Regrei after regret.
Ruth, do we have to go into this novfl
我想了很多 lgota lot on my mind.
我會離開 沒有人知道我是否回來 I'm going away and who knows if I'm going to come back.
- 你說這個幹嘛？- 我沒有確定下來... Why would you say that?
(STAMMERING) I'm not saying for certain...
- 不 艾克說你會... - 當我沒說 - No, Ike said that you'd be able to... - Forget I mentioned it.
你不能這麼做 You can't do that.
我還沒準備好 I'm not ready. (STUTFERS) I'm not ready lo be alone. You're all l have.
我還沒準備好 一個人生活
你是我唯一的依靠
孩子們都不跟我說話 The boys don't speak to me. No one speaks to me. I'll...
沒人跟我談心
我會瘋的 伯尼
我一個人會瘋的 I'll go crazy, Bernie. (STAMMERS)
I'll go crazy all alone.
伯尼 我真的會瘋的 I'll go crazy, Bernie, lwill.
(BEEPING)
(PHONE RINGING)
嗨 (MACHINE BEEPS)
嗶聲後 請留言 RUTH: (OVER VOICEMAIL) Hi. Leave a message after the tone.
伯尼！ -(MACHINE BEEPS) - MAN: Bernie! Bernie, you there?
伯尼 你在家嗎？
伯尼？快接電話啊 Bernie? Come on, pick up.
我知道你把那500億藏起來了 I know you're hiding that $50 billion somewhere,
你這個狗娘養的 you piece-of-shit cocksucker.
我希望你每天都被男人爆菊 I hope you enjoy getting your ass raped evely night,
你就躲起來吧 小心別被我逮到 'cause you're going away for a long time.
後會有期 你這個該死的混蛋 Hasta Ia vista, you kike motherfucker.
-(RECEIVER CLICKS) -(MACHINE BEEPS)
你在做什麼？ (JEWELRY JINGLING)
我不能再這樣活下去了 What are you doing?
成天吃力不討好 I can't live like this.
患得患失 到頭來卻是一場空 Slogging through, being miserable to no good end.
有意義嗎？ What's the point?
我之前還在想... You know, lwas thinking earlier, this isn't even about me.
即使我不這樣做 遲早也會有人出來頂替我
這個國家需要一個壞人的角色 This country needs a villain, someone to send to the gallows,
需要他來恐嚇所有人
這樣他們才能聽話地 在受操縱的系統下生活 so everyone can feel okay about living under a rigged system.
現在別跟我說這些 伯尼 I don't give a rat's ass, Bernie.
所以倒不如我來當這個壞人 Well, it'll be better once l go.
你拿這些珠寶幹什麼？ What's with the jewelry?
這是法院唯一沒有凍結的東西了 It's the only thing the court didn't freeze.
我要打包起來 L'm gonna wrap il all up, give il lo family,
寄回去給家裏人
然後自殺 and then kill myself.
你自殺幹嘛？ Why would you kill yourself?
因為我受夠了被所有人怨恨 Because I'm tired of being hated.
我甚至都不能理解 I don't even understand it.
我... 你自己捅了簍子 L... (SCOFFS)
沒辦法自圓其說 但這跟我有什麼關係？ You got yourself into trouble. You couldn't get out.
他們為什麼要連我也一併怨恨？ What do I have to do with it? Why does the world hate me?
大家都以為我是所謂的幕後操縱者 They all think I'm some kind of a mastermind.
把這當做是一種褒獎吧 露絲 Take it as a compliment, Ruth.
他們都在背後說我壞話 They say all these horrible things about me.
說我是你的簿記員 They say I was your bookkeeper.
- 他們說... - 你才不是簿記員呢 - They say... - You weren't my bookkeeper.
但第一年的賬目確實是我記的啊 I did maintain the reoords the first year.
那都是1960年的事了 而且當時沒有其他人參與 That was in 1960. It wasjust you and me.
實際上 你連簿記的專業都沒學過 I mean, but you weren't even a real bookkeeper.
我知道 我只是說你不要試圖 製造出我不是你"同夥"的假象 No, but l'm just saying don't make it seem like I didn't pitch in
因為當時我還回來幫了你的 記得嗎？ because I even came back, remember?
記得 不過後來我們就聘請了一個職業簿記員 Yeah, but then we hired a real bookkeeper.
然後我還幫你發工資 - And I helped with payroll. - We hired a real bookkeeper.
我們請了一個職業的簿記員 (STAMMERS) Right, so why are they making it seem like I'm involved with all this stuff?
是啊 所以為什麼其他人
一定要死抓著我不放 認為這一切跟我有關？
因為他們無處宣洩 親愛的 Because they're out for blood, honey.
這就是原因 That's why. Theyjust wanna...
不過知情的人 都知道你跟這件事毫無關聯 But anybody in the know knows you weren't the mastermind.
- 這簡直就是無中生有 - 多謝安慰 That's nonsense.
我都已經想自殺了 Well, thanks. l already wanna kill myself. Are you trying to make me feel worse?
你還想讓我感覺更糟？
不是 我... No,bu1l, l...(slel-ls)
你... You, uh...
你真的想自殺？ (STUTFERS) You'd commit suicide?
用什麼方法？ With what?
我也不知道 還沒想過這個問題 I don't know. I haven't figured that part out yet.
不過要體面一點的 比如吃安眠藥 Something nice. Maybe Ambien.
家裏還有多少安眠藥？ How much Ambien do we have?
多得可以開藥店了 Enough to open a fucking pharmacy.
這個可以嗎？氯硝安定？ What about these? Klonopin?
都差不多 放進來吧 Same thing. Just put i1 in here.
《祝你有個快樂的小聖誕》 Do Have YourselfA Merry Little Christmas.
這是一首好歌 接下來你將會聽到朱蒂·加蘭演唱這首歌 It's a great song and you'll be hearing Judy Garland sing it...
就不能安靜地結束這一切嗎？ RUTH: Can't we just have quiet?
不看點東西我睡不著 I can't fall asleep unless I watch something.
你剛剛吃了整整一瓶的 You just took a whole fucking bottle of Ambien, Bernie.
安眠藥 伯尼 Sleep's not gonna be your problem.
你是不可能睡不著的
我腦袋裏現在很亂 My mind races.
好吧 Fine.
我們在地球上的最後一個夜晚 Our last night on Earth will be you, me and Judy Garland.
有你 有我 還有朱蒂·加蘭
- 多浪漫啊 - 現在先別說這些 露絲 How romaniic.
- Let's not get started, Ruth. - Hmm.
我們的一生過得還是挺快樂的 對吧？ We had a good life, didn't we?
是啊 Hmm. Yeah.
可惜你把它給毀了 Until you ruined it.
(HAVE YOURSELF A MERRY LITTLE CHRISTMAS PLAYING)
(DOOR OPENS)
(DOOR CLOSES)
(FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING)
爺爺！ BOY: Pop-pop!
爺爺！ Pop-pop!
(SONG CONTINUES PLAYING)
(RUNNING FOOTSTEPS)
爺爺！ BERNIE: Hello?
BOY: Pop-pop!
是誰？ BERNIE: Hello?
馬克 安迪 Mark, Andy.
真高興你們能來 Uh...
I'm glad you came.
我有好多話想跟你們講 I have so much I wanna tell you.
有好多話 So much lwanna tell you.
我從來沒想過... I never... I never wanted any...
從來沒想讓你們兩個 I never wanted either of you to...
去...
To, you know...
我從來沒想讓你們兩個... I just never wanted either of you to...
只是... n just...
人生當中有時會發生一些事 Sometimes things in life happen that you don't even...
是你從沒...
我有很多秘密 但是從來沒打算要跟你們 You know, there's a lot that I never really wanted to tell you.
分享
呃... Uh...
我很高興你們能來 I'm glad... I'm glad you're here.
(SONG CONTINUES PLAYING)
晚上好 Good evening.
這一天將會被永遠 It is a day that will be in bold print in history books.
載進史冊 Black Monday, October 19th, 1987,
黑色星期一 1987年10月19號
這一天股票市場進入了自由跌落的狀態 when the stock market went into a free fall,
就一天的損失量 losing more in one day than it did on Black Tuesday in 1929.
就超過了1929年的黑色星期二
他媽的暗箱操作 (STATIC)
Fucking rigged.
該怎麼跟這些小人作對 How to fuck the little guy.
我很想知道 到底能不能指望你 I wonder if I can count on you.
當然可以 FRANK: Of course.
爺爺！ BOY: (ECHOING) Pop-pop!
- 我能指望你嗎？- 爸爸！ BERNIE: Can I counton you? BOY: Pop-pop!
我們今天遭受了重大的打擊 BERNIE: We took a big hi! today.
損失了超過十億美元 Lost over a billion and change.
你知道如何利用 價差執行轉換套利策略 You know how with a split-strike conversion strategy
來讓股票權期抵消虧損嗎？ the stock options offset losses?
就如同保險一般 FRANK: It's like insurance.
一次像這樣的暴跌 就是非常好的策略 A fucking meltdown like this would have been a nioe strategy.
不過前提是我們必須 If only we had it in place
- 提前準備好... - 沒有不過 -before the fucking... - No ifs.
沒有不過 No ifs.
而且我們要保守秘密 And we tell no one.
誰都不能告訴 We tell no one.
爺爺！ BOY: Pop-pop!
也就是說 我們是在挑選昨天的賽馬比賽的贏家？ FRANK: Basically, we're picking winners of yesterday's horse races?
沒錯 如果有人來複查我們的賬目 所有的空缺都能被填補 Yeah, so if anyone double-checks our trades, we got it all there.
- 人人都是獲利者 - 沒問題 - All winners. - FRAN K: Fine.
一定要確保賬簿上 BERNIE: Make sure the books show that the London office is clearing the trades
註明清理賬目的人 是倫敦辦公室的
這樣製造旺市的高層就不會被察覺 so no one upstairs in market-making is involved.
我的兄弟 兒子 誰都不能暴露 Not my brother, not the boys, no one.
- 明白嗎？- 當然 我當然明白 Understand?
Yeah, of course, of oourse, yeah.
誰都不能暴露 BERNIE: No one.
歐文對我說的最後一句話 WOMAN: ErwinS last words to me, the last thing he said was,
他的臨終遺言是
"伯尼會處理好一切的" "Bernie will take care of everything."
他現在死了 我完全不知道該怎麼辦 He's gone and I don't know what to do.
一切都會好起來的 BERNIE: It's gonna be okay.
你可以把歐文所有其它的賬戶 You can take all of Erwin's other accounts,
他的存款 人壽保險 以及其它的一切 his savings, life insurance, every1hing, and you can put it all in his account here.
都存進他在這裏的賬戶裏
願上帝保佑你 伯尼 God bless you, Bernie.
(RUNNING FOOTSTEPS)
爸爸！ BOY: Pop-pop!
- 爸爸！- 丹尼爾 - Pop-pop! - Daniel!
- 爸爸？- 什麼事？ - Pop-pop? - Yeah?
你會死在監獄裏嗎？ Are you gonna die in jail?
(SONG CONTINUES)
露絲 露絲 BERNIE; Ruih. Ruth.
再給我點藥 Ruth, I need more pills.
露絲 Ruth.
你難道沒有羞恥心嗎？ MAN: Have you no shame?
是誰？ Hello?
你難道沒有羞恥心嗎？ MAN: Have you no shame?
沒有後悔嗎？ No remorse?
你難道沒有良心嗎？ Have you no conscience?
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)
你從寡婦的手裏偷錢 MAN: You steal from widows, you steal from charities,
從慈善機構手裏偷錢
從大屠殺倖存者 埃利·維塞爾手裏偷錢 you steal from Elie Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor.
你蠶食自己的同胞 You prey on your own people.
從自己的同胞手裏偷錢 You steal from your own people.
你難道沒有羞恥心嗎！？ - Have you no shame? -(GUNSHOTS)
(GASPS)
- 嗯？- 我們還沒死 - BERNIE: Huh? - Well, we're still here.
馬可波羅斯先生 接下來交給你了 MAN: Mr. Markopolos, it's all yours.
謝謝你 主席先生 MARKOPOLOS: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
我和我的團隊從2000年5月開始 My team and I tried our best to get the SEC to investigate
就向美國證券交易委員會提交 and shut down the Madoff Ponzi scheme
關於調查並阻止馬多夫 with repeated and credible warnings to the SEC that started in May 2000.
龐氏騙局的警告
- 我們知道... - 露絲 - We knew then that we had provided... - Ruth.
怎麼了？ -...enough red flags... What?
你想看看這個哈利的證詞嗎？ You wanna watch this Harry guy's testimony?
誰？ Who?
哈利什麼的... 我不認識他的姓怎麼讀 Harry... I don't know, I can't pronounce it.
關於什麼的證詞？ RUTH: What's he testifying about?
我的 Me.
時間跨度長達整整9年 ...over a nine-year time span.
如果一筆價值500萬的 If a $50 billion Ponzi scheme doesn't make the SEC's priority list,
龐氏騙局數目 不能讓證券委員會的人優先調查
那我很想知道他們是如何判斷輕重緩急的 then I wanna know who sets their priorities.
你是依據什麼 判斷伯尼·馬多夫是詐騙犯的？ What made you think that Bernie Madoff was a fraud?
最重要的信息是... 當然我也憑這一點僅花了5分鐘 The key tip-off,
就認定了他是一個詐騙犯... and it took me about five minutes to figure out that he was a fraud,
接下來我會演示一個手勢 然後我會告訴人家 I'm gonna give you a hand signal and I'm gonna show you
這個表演動作的潛台詞是什麼 what his performance return line looked like.
這代表股票的漲勢... 只增不減 It went in only one direction, up.
他們的股票 從來不像正常股市的那樣 It never had variation like the market does.
跌漲起伏 後來我發現... Like this, bu! then I did...
- 這傢伙是誰？- 他曾警告證券委員會的人要注意我 - Who is this guy? - BERNIE: He tried to warn the SEC about me.
- 然後呢？- 他們無視了他的警告 - And what happened? - They ignored his warnings.
- 那有什麼意思呢？- 你是指的什麼？ - So what's the point? - What do mean, whafs the point?
這個聽證會的意義何在？ Well, what's the point of all this?
他的大概意思就是想說 Well, he's saying that basically, he handed the SEC the evidence
他曾把證據遞交給證券委員會
但他們沒有及時地跟進 and they didn't follow up on it.
所以是說政府機構的人不管事 Oh. So a government agency is incompetent.
- 嗯哼 - 這算新聞嗎？ - Mmm-hmm. - Yeah, and that's news?
不算啊 這點我幾年前就在吐槽了 No, look, I've been saying that for years, and I have firsthand knowledge.
而且我都是直接跟他們打交道 所以明白得很
2005年夏天
這個混蛋穿著那件夾克 隨意地進出這棟大樓 This fucking cocksucker walks in and out of the building
到處招搖 with this jacket on.
他有病嗎？ What the fuck is wrong with him?
伯尼 這個人想知道我們存托公司的賬戶號 Bern, the guy's asking for our DTC account number.
我們怎麼辦？ What are we gonna do?
我跟證券委員會打了那麼多年的交道 I mean, all my years dealing with the SEC, I've never seen this "enforcement."
從沒聽說過這個證券執法部門
這傢伙以為自己是誰？ Who the fuck does this guy think he is?
老闆 如果不把號碼給他 Boss, if we don't give the guy the number,
那就會顯得我們有所隱藏 ifs gonna be obvious that we're hiding something.
是啊 但我就是看不慣他這麼大搖大擺地走進來 Yeah, but the way he just fucking walks in here like that,
也不穿件西裝 no fucking suit or nothing.
- 我懂 - 這他媽得自大到什麼程度啊？ - No, I know. - What kind of fucking arrogance?
他那件夾克確實很惹人煩 不過 這不是重點 The jackefs annoying, but, Bern, please focus.
如果我們把編號給他 If we do give it to him, uh, one call to the DTC and thafs it.
他們只需要打一個電話給存托公司
我們就完了 Game over.
我們來只是做一個常規檢查 We'rejust here for a routine exam. We haven't done one in 10 years.
我們已經10年沒來瞭解過情況了
- 你們不是才來嗎 - 沒有啊 - You were just here. - Uh, we... We weren't.
- 信託監察部來過 - 我們跟信託監察部信息是不互通的 - DC Inspections was. - Uh, we don't talk to DC.
跟我談談這篇文章 So, uh, tell me about this article.
這個東西確實挺困擾我的 Yeah, I was very bothered by this.
他們為什麼要把我的臉畫得這麼胖？ I mean, why would they make me look fat?
你說什麼？ MAN: Excuse me?
不信你自己看 I mean, look at my face.
看看這張臉 我看起來就像一條海豚 Look at my cheeks. I look like a fucking porpoise.
我想問的其實是裏面對你的指控 Well, um, yes, but I'm referring to the allegations.
怎麼了？羅莉·理查德什麼都知道 What about it? Lori Richards has all this information.
我匯總成一個文件 直接發給她了 I sent it to her in a file. They have it.
我之前也說了 我們這個部門組織的 As I told you, we're a very large organization. We don't talk to each other.
- 所以很多信息是不互通的 - 你們不跟信託監察交流？ You don't talk to DC?
是的 我們不交流 (STAMMERS) N0. It's, uh...
這就是證券委員會的問題了 BERNIE: This is the problem with the SEC. I've been saying this for years.
其實我都提了好多年意見了
我就說你們部門之間需要有更多的溝通 I mean, you have to have better communication.
如果你們的信息不流通 你們又怎麼能 How are you supposed to be able to do yourjob
及時並有效地處理好問題呢？ with a fraction of the information?
我們也在往這方面做嘗試 Well, we're trying to get all of the information.
那你覺得先從跟信託監察交流開始如何？ Well, don't you think you should start by talking to DC?
我整個辦公室的人 I mean, my whole office here is wondering whafs happening.
都在猜測是不是出什麼問題了 You come in with that jacket, it embarrasses the hell out of all of us.
你穿著這間夾克走進來
把我們所有人都嚇得半死
而這個呢？就是一個該死的卡通人像 And this? It's a fucking cartoon.
這篇文章也很久遠了 都是4年前發表的了 It's an old article. It's four years old.
你們就帶著一份印有愚蠢卡通圖像的舊報紙 And you're asking me questions about an old article with a silly cartoon?
來問我問題？
而且還沒跟信託監察的人 提前通過氣 And you haven't spoken to DC.
需要等你的律師嗎？ Are we, um, are we waiting on your lawyers?
有監管機構的人來我辦公室的時候 I never have lawyers in the office
我從來不會請律師過來 有兩個原因 when I'm talking to regulators for two reasons.
第一 我什麼事都沒犯 One, I'm not doing anything wrong.
第二 我比絕大多數的人都要瞭解規則 Two, I know the rules better than most because I drafted a majority of them.
因為其中的大部分都是我起草的
雖然我們之前沒見過 And we haven't met before, but I have very strong relationships.
不過可以說我們還是挺有關係的
你們證券委員會主任的候選名單上 就有我的大名 And I was on the shun list for SEC Director.
這個我們知道 Yes, we know that.
如果你們還有什麼需要 隨時來辦公室找我 If you need anything at all, I'll be in my offlce.
不要覺得不方便 There's no such thing as an inconvenience.
- 謝謝 - 隨時歡迎你們 - Thanks. -l'm here.
噢 Oh, um...
還有 這些保安都是信託公司的人嗎？ (STUTFERS) By the way, are these securities with the DTC?
- 沒錯 - 我們需要你們的賬戶號 Of course.
以便核實你們的資產 We're gonna need your account number just so we can verify the assets.
伯尼 我他媽都快急死了 0h, Bern, you're fucking killing me.
646 646.
646 好的 謝謝你 MAN: 646. Great, thank you.
你們介意出門前 把這件夾克 Do you mind if you take thatjacket off before you go out there?
脫掉嗎？
- 噢... - 只是... - Oh, um... - Just...
沒問題 Sure.
只需一個電話 BERNIE: One call.
證券委員會的人 只需要打一個電話 All the SEC had to do was make one ca/I
就可以發現 所有的一切都是偽造的 and they would've seen that everything was fake,
賬戶裏其實一分錢都沒有 that there was nothing there.
可他們不會打電話的 But they never called.
你想要賭他們不打？ DIANA: You just gambled that they wouldn't call?
這不僅僅是賭博的心理 BERNIE: It was more than a gamble. It was...
更像是一次信仰的飛躍 It was a leap of faith, if you will.
知道他們有可能會打那個電話 然後就能 DIANA: You wait, knowing what they will find if they make that call.
發現一切 但是你唯一能做的就是等待
真不敢想像那是怎樣的心情 I can't imagine what that was like.
是極其痛苦且困難的 It was... It was excruciatingly difflcult.
在某種程度上 你認為... At some point, you figured...
我認為他們不會打 - I figured that they didn't do it. - Hmm.
他們不會繼續跟進 They just didn't follow up on it.
如果你沒有打算自殺 (SIGHS)
If you didn't plan on killing yourself or going into hiding,
或者潛逃
你覺得這件事會有怎麼樣的結局？ how did you think it would end?
應該就是... Well, it was almost like, uh...
雖然現在聽起來 有點駭人... It sounds horrible to say it now
不過我想的話 應該會世界末日吧 but I just wanted the whole world to come to an end.
當911發生時 When 9/11 happened, I thought this was the only way out.
我就覺得這是唯一可能的結局
整個世界陷入混沌 我會死去 The world would come to an end, I'd be dead, and everybody would be gone.
所有人都會沒命
不過其實我還能繼續騙下去的 Uh, but, I mean, I could've kept it going. I couldve covered everything.
我本能把一切繼續掩飾好
即使是在08年秋天 Even after the fall of '08,
我手邊還是有大量的現金投資 可以拉攏進去 I had enough commitments of cash that would've come in.
所以我本來可以... So I coulrfve, you know... (STUTFERS)
不過我累了 I just got tired.
我早已打算好 在感恩節的時候 放棄一切 (SIGHS) I knew by Thanksgiving I was gonna give it up.
然後停手 I was gonna stop.
美國的金融危機 REPORTER 12 Financial turmoil in the U. S.
華爾街進入危機模式 Wall Street in crisis mode.
華爾街現紅色警報 REPORTER 2: Wall Street on red alert.
貝爾斯登受影響破產 RE PORTE R 32 Bear Steams has effectively gone under.
美國歷史上最大規模的破產 RE PO RTERI The largest bankruptcy in U. S. history.
- 史無前例 - 這次事件 REPORTER 4: Unprecedented.
嚴重撼動華爾街的地位 REPORTER 5: This is really shaking the foundation of Wall Street.
數不清的錢 還有數不清的工作 A lot of money and a lot of jobs.
美國經濟面臨前所未有的挑戰 Americefs economy is facing unprecedented challenges.
股票市場遭受毀滅性打擊 REPORTER: All of this taking a devastating toll on stocks.
遭遇最大百分比跌損 Single biggest point drop ever.
(MUSIC PLAYING)
2008年10月 佛羅里達棕櫚灘 FRANK: I'm sorry to bother you.
很抱歉打擾你
我剛剛又接到一個電話 你肯定喜歡 I just got another call you're gonna fucking love.
- 說吧 - 梅迪西銀行 BERNIE: Yeah, go ahead.
要撤回4億5千萬 伯尼 Bank Medici's pulling out $450 million, Bern.
斯坦利·查爾斯一整年都從我們這兒取錢 Stanley Chais has been draining us all goddamn year,
這還沒有算上費爾菲爾德取出的資金 and this is on top of Fairfield's withdrawals.
我他媽幾十年都在為這些混蛋跑東跑西 I delivered for these fucking people for fucking decades
現在他們卻給我玩"逃跑遊戲" and now they're all running for the fucking hills.
伯尼 我們不能再受到資金撤回的重創了 Bern, we can't keep getting hi! with these redemptions.
我們需要想辦法讓他們留下來 We gotta find a way to oonsen/e.
我建議降低收益 I think we should lower the returns.
你在開玩笑嗎？這會造成更大的恐慌 Are you kidding? Thafll cause a bigger panic.
那些貪婪的混蛋 全部都會撤回的 不能這麼做 They'll all pull out, the greedy fucks. We can't do that.
那就想想辦法啊 Well, we gotta do something.
我們現在的處境非常糾結 We're treading water like a fucking paraplegic here.
- 我只是想說... - 等一下 我把這個智障打發走再說 - MAN: I wasjust saying... - Hold on, let me get rid of this idiot.
華爾街最大的笑話就是 伯尼就像猶太人的短期國庫債券 ...the joke on the street is that Bernie's like the Jewish T-bill.
真好笑 我在打電話呢 Very funny. I'm on the phone.
- 我在打電話 - 他就是這麼可靠 -L'm on the phone. - He's that safe.
我現在沒空 I'm on the phone.
我晚點再介紹你們認識 I'll introduce you guys later.
他會很喜歡你的 He's gonna love you.
想想辦法 看能不能填補費爾菲爾德的空缺 See if you can rattle Fairfields cage.
與此同時 我倒想到幾個好點子 In the meantime, I've got a few ideas.
- 費爾菲爾德？- 沒錯 FRAN KI Fairfleld? BERNIE; Yeah.
沒問題 All right.
- 嗯 很不錯 - 但是不能穿浴袍 RUTH: Uh-huh. Nice, nice. MAN: Not in a bathing suit.
(LAUGHS)
我也是 Me neither.
- 嘿 - 嘿 孩子 - Hey. - Hey, kid.
我聽說你在城裏那個 Aren't you the one who hustled those penny stocks
亂糟糟的辦公室裏 把所有的低價股都騙進來了 -in that shitty offlce you had downtown? -(CHUCKLES)
沒錯 說的就是我 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's me.
你能相信我都認識這個人50年了嗎？ Can you believe I've known this man for 50 years?
卡爾 我有話要跟你說 Carl, listen, I wanna tell you something.
現在不行 Not now.
市場裏現在有一些非常不錯的機會 There are some real opportunities in the market right now
我想跟你分享一下 and I wanna make you aware of them.
- 我現在不想聽 伯尼 - 我知道 - Not now, Bernie. - I know, I know.
- 現在不行 - 如果不是非常非常重要的信息 - Not now. - I know.
我也不會來找你了 明白嗎？ I wouldn't tell you about them
unless they were really, really important, okay?
我不想你以後因為錯失這樣的機會 而責怪我 - I don't want you mad at me you missed out. - All right.
好吧
你還想讓我投多少錢？ - How much do you want me to put in? -$250.
2億5千萬
- 除開我已經投進來的3億 你還要我投這麼多？- 是的 On top of the $300 million I already have with you?
現在市場有這麼混亂？ Yes.
The markei in shambles?
股市正在暴跌 所以恰巧可以抓住這個機會 It's plummeting, but now is the time to take advantage.
我對你已經夠坦蕩了 - I'll tell you what, l'm so exposed... - That's exactly why I'm proposing this to you.
正是如此 我才會把這個消息跟你分享啊
如果再慷慨解囊 可能就會因為猥褻罪被逮捕了 ...l'm afraid I'll be arrested for public indecency.
這件事我不是每個人都告訴的 -(CHUCKLES) -l'm not doing it with everybody.
- 只有少數幾個人 - 行了 別說了 - It's just a few people. - All right, all right. Enough.
- 你像我的家人一樣 - 這麼說吧 - Okay, and you are family. -l'll tell you.
我會好好考慮的 Listen, I'll think about it.
- 好吧 - 好嗎？ - 0 Kay - O Kay?
但別考慮太久 Bui don'i take too long.
我是很認真的 別拖太久 In all seriousness' don't take too long. Please don't take too long.
拜託你別拖太久
- 卡爾... - 我說了 我會考慮的 - Carl... - I said it. I will think about it.
- 對話結束 - 好的 我尊重你的選擇 - Period. - I love you, I respect that.
非常感謝 Thank you very much.
該死的有錢人 都是些寄生蟲 - Fucking rich people. Parasites. - You're in a mood.
某人有點小情緒了
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
我得接個電話 I goita take this.
我剛跟金格的那個混蛋 FRAN K: Well, I just got off the phone with that cocksucker at Kingate.
通過電話
他要撤回2億6千萬的資金 He's pulling out $260 million.
這些蠢貨真的就不明白 Do these fucking people not understand how a fucking split-strike works?
價差執行轉換套利 是怎麼操作的嗎？
他們真的這麼蠢？ - Do they not understand? - Hold on.
等一下 費爾菲爾德的人回電話了 I goi Fairfleld calling me back. Hold on.
等等 Yeah?
你好？
嘿 我叫裏克·賈維斯 Hey. Uh, Rick Jarvis.
我們幾個月前在俱樂部見過 當時所羅曼也在 We met at the club a few months back with Solomon.
既然互相介紹過了 我就直入正題了 Well, look, while l got your allention,
我剛退出了一家私人的股權企業 拿到一筆5位數的報酬 I just exited this private equity venture with a 5X return.
我想找個地方投資 讓這筆錢能在這個季度開始滾利 L'm looking to put that money to work right away this quarter.
很遺憾 這不可能了 Well, unfortunately, that's not possible.
我還沒告訴你有多少錢呢 I haven't told you how much.
- 錢不是最重要的 - 我有1億 - Well, it really doesn't matter. -(CHUCKLES) $100 million.
抱歉 不過這個季度的基金 (SIGHS) I'm sorry, but the fund is fully subscribed for the quarter.
已經全部被訂完了
- 市場這麼不景氣的情況下？- 我的客戶知道如何高枕無憂 - Even in this market? - My clients know not to worry.
我也知道如何不讓他們吃虧 I know how to avoid the pitfalls.
這個季度 我一定要投資 Okay, I want in this quarter, all right?
不管你有哪些條件 我都滿足你 Whatever restrictions you wanna put on it,
我這筆錢是打算長期交由你保管的 you know, I'll park this money with you for a long time.
這跟錢真的沒關係 你是要我拋棄和客戶的合作關係 It's not about the money. It's about pushing clients aside.
這我做不來 我必須犧牲掉某個客戶 I can't do that. I have to sacrifice someone,
一個忠誠的客戶 這樣才能滿足你的需求 a loyal client to me, in order to accommodate you.
除非你有特別好的理由... Unless it's really, really worth it...
我說的可是給你整整 lam talking about giving you $100 million.
1億美金
這個數目 我很難辦到 That's, uh, not gonna do it.
那你有什麼條件？ So whafs it gonna take?
我必須按職業道德辦事 I have to do what's ethical.
- 我不能讓你插隊 - 如果你同意 我就給你1億5千萬 - I can't let you jump the line. -l'll go $150 ifyou let me.
- 我很想幫你 但是不行 - 1億7千5百萬 - Love to help you, but I can't. -$175.
名額已滿 Fully subscribed.
- 2億 - 愛莫能助 -$200. - I wish I could.
我想想... 還是不行 I'm just thinking if I... No.
2億2千5百萬？ $225?
2億5千萬？ $250.
2億7千5百萬？ $275.
3億 $300 million.
你想要什麼價？直接告訴我吧 How far do we gotta go? Just tell me.
如果超過4億 那就可以考慮一下 If you go above four, we might have something.
4億 $400.
這我能辦到 I can do that.
合作愉快 We got a deal.
我得接個電話 (CELL PHONE RINGS)
I gotta take this phone call.
什麼事？ Yeah?
我不知道剛剛跟我說話的人是誰 I don't know who the fuck I was just talking with,
不過如果他退股 but if this guy checks out, we just picked up a good piece of change.
就會馬上入資我們
現在的亂子有點多 Well, the shit is definitely hitting the fucking fan.
費爾菲爾德郡和格林尼治市的人現在在線上 I got Fairfield Greenwich on the line.
- 要我把你電話接過去嗎？- 好的 - You want me to patch you in? - Go ahead.
嘿 伯尼 你現在說話方便嗎？ MAN 1: Hey, Bernie. We catching you at a bad time?
我現在背部疼得要命 你說呢 You tell me. I got a back spasm thafs fucking killing me.
- 伯尼 伯尼 - 什麼事？ - MAN 2: Bernie. Bernie. - What's going on?
- 能耽誤你一分鐘嗎？- 不行 - Can I just get one minute'? - Not...
我只要一分鐘 幫你們介紹一下 - J ust one minute to introduce you. - I can't...
- 現在不方便 - 就一分鐘！ - I can't talk. - Just one minute!
- 你繼續 - 聽著 伯尼 - Yeah? - MAN 1: Look, Bern,
你的基金現在算是 唯一一個沒遭受重大虧損的了 you're basically the only fund that hasn't gotten hammered.
你的客戶只能去你那兒 在不經受巨額虧損的情況下 You're the one place clients can turn to for liquidity
申請資產折現了 without taking huge losses.
這就是勝利者的詛咒 (CHUCKLES) It's the winner's curse.
怎麼 我還要因為你剛從我這兒 What... What, am I supposed to be flattered
折現了15億 而感到榮幸？ that you just cashed out a billion and a half dollars?
你不能再繼續撤銷資金出去了 You gotta put a stop to these redemptions
因為你要知道 一旦你把錢拿出去留出空位 because if you don't, just know there's plenty of money out there
就會有很多人願意頂替你的位置 that would love to take your place.
- 這算是威脅嗎？- 你愛怎麼想怎麼想 - Is that a threat? - You can take it any way you like.
看看你啊 一臉愁容 穿得倒是西裝革履 Look at you, all dressed up and no place to die.
- 你好 傑弗裏 - 伯尼 你沒必要緊張 - Hello, Jeffry. - Come on, Bernie, there's no need for stress.
我又沒把錢撤出來 I haven't made many withdrawals.
不過 這個問題或許我們該討論討論了 是吧？ Although, that's probably something we should discuss. Hmm?
傑弗裏 我現在倒是知道一些很好的機會 I did wanna tell you that there are some real opportunities
如果你感興趣 我可以跟你分享分享 in the market right now if you're interested, Jeffry.
- 嗯 - 意下如何？ What do you think?
- 我們應該說說... - 馬多夫夫人！ - We should be talking... - Mrs. Madoff!
- 皮考爾先生 - 你丈夫看起來臉色不大好 - Mr. Picower. - Your husband doesn't look well.
你該多關心關心他 You should attend to him. Hmm?
你沒事吧？ You okay?
那個皮考爾是怎麼回事？ What's wrong with him, Picower'? He's one strange, sicko fuck.
真是又老又奇怪
對了 我妹妹 Oh, by the way, my sister, she's worried about the economy
她很擔心最近的經濟情況
所以打算把她剩下的積蓄 and she was thinking about investing the rest of her savings with you.
都來你這兒投資
- 可以嗎？- 沒問題 - Would that be okay? - Yeah, sure.
2008年11月 紐約
沃特 我這裏不是貨幣市場資金 你明白嗎？ Walter, I'm not a fucking money market fund, do you understand?
如果你繼續從我這裏取錢 If you don't stop these withdrawals
而且月底前不把之前的錢補上 and replace the money before the end of the month,
我就不跟你合作了！ then I'm gonna cut you off!
我會把整個費爾菲爾德的賬戶全部關閉掉！ I'm gonna close the whole fucking Fairfield account!
沒錯！ Yes!
聽明白了嗎！？ Do you hear me?
-(MUFFLED CONVERSATIONS) -(DISHES CLATFERING)
該死 什麼鬼... Shit. What the...
(INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS)
- 我不喜歡 - 你明明很喜歡 RUTH; I hated that. MARK; You loved it.
- 你出來之後 說了一句 不要撒謊 - 我才沒有！ RUTH: No, ldidn't! MARK: You came out of there,
- 你真愛編故事 - 你才是 -you said you loved it. Don'i lie. - RUTHI Oh, did not!
RUTH: You're such a liar. MARK: You're a liar.
親愛的 那個會不會太生了？ RUTH: Sweetheart, is that a little bit too rare?
沒事 很好吃 EMILY: This is good.
- 你沒事吧？- 沒事 - Everything all right? - BERNIE: Yeah.
你是把行李拖進臥室的嗎？ Did you wheel your luggage into the bedroom?
- 什麼？- 你是不是把行李拖進臥室的？ RUTH: Why?
BERNIE: Did you wheel your luggage into the bedroom?
反正我肯定不是從窗戶扔進去的 Well, I certainly didn't bring it in through the window.
但是你把門口的牆壁弄髒了 But you smudged the wall by the door. You scuffed it with your roller bag.
你的拖輪箱磨到那個地方了
我有好多事要忙 還得給這群小吃貨弄飯 所以有點急了 Well, string me up and feed me to the dogs. (CHUCKLES)
抱歉我把牆壁磨髒了 伯尼 I'm sorry I scuffed a wall, Bernie.
艾米麗剛剛在問華爾街的事情 爸爸 ANDREW: Emily wasjust asking about Wall Street, Dad.
是啊 Yeah, how's Wall Street, Papa?
爺爺 華爾街怎麼樣？ She's working on her MBA.
她正在為工商管理學碩士做準備
爸爸 馬多夫證券公司未來的老闆 Dad, future head of Madoff Securities.
沒錯 你們幾個可得小心了 RUTH: That's right. Watch out, guys.
我問你華爾街怎麼樣 爺爺？ I asked how's Wall Street, Papa?
華爾街挺不錯的 Wall Street is good.
爸爸說華爾街最近的情況不怎麼樣 Dad says things are bad at Wall Street.
只有你爸爸這麼認為 其實情況挺好的 Well, Dad told you that, but things are fine.
為什麼情況不好？ EMILY: Why are they bad?
我剛剛是怎麼說的了？ What did I just say?
我問了一個問題 為什麼情況不好？ EMILY: I asked a question. Why is it bad?
我說過了 情況沒有不好 I told you they're not bad.
你為什麼不好好吃你的飯呢？ Why don't you just eat?
如果情況很好 那為什麼其他人要稱之為"突然崩潰"？ Well, if it's not bad, why do they call it a meltdown?
- 那你來告訴我如何？- 我怎麼可能知道？ - Why don't you tell me? - EMILY: How am I supposed to know?
- 所以我才問你呀 - 你有讀過《巴倫週刊》嗎？ - Do you read Barmn's? Huh'? - That's why I'm asking you.
你有讀過《華爾街日報》嗎？ Do you read the Wall Street Journal?
- 那你說給我聽聽？- 這個問題是我問的 - Why don't you tell me? - I just asked a question.
你是我孫女 而且你只是個8歲的小毛孩 BERNIE: You are my granddaughter and you're an eight-year-old,
你不應該問我這種問題 and you shouldn't be asking me questions like that.
- 我不想回答你關於華爾街的事情 - 嘿 爸爸 - I don't feel like talking about Wall Street. - ANDREW: Hey, Dad.
- 我不想談 - 爸爸 - I don't feel like talking about Wall Street. - Dad.
- 我只是來跟家人一起吃個晚飯的 - 別說了 -L'm here having dinner with my family. - That's enough.
伯尼 你到底怎麼了？她只是好奇而已 RUTH: Bernie, whafs wrong with you?
因為她根本就不知道自己在說些什麼 - She's just curious. - EMILY: Why are you being so mean?
她才8歲 我才不要接受她的質問 Because she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about.
She's eight years old. I gotta get grilled by this kid.
- 你為什麼這麼刻薄？- 我他媽還有好多華爾街的事 - Why are you being so mean? - BERNIE: When I've got so many other
要處理 要關心 goddamn things I'm worried about on Wall Street
這個小屁孩卻跑過來問我 華爾街怎麼樣！ and this kid's asking me about how Wall Street is.
- 閉嘴吃你的飯吧！- 爸爸 - Shut up and eat your food! - ANDREW: Dad!
沒事了 親愛的 伯尼 別說了！ It's okay, sweetheart Bernie, stop it! What's wrong with you?
你有什麼毛病？
現在你來唱白臉了 - Now you're playing the good guy. -(EMILY CRYING)
- 親愛的 沒事了 - 跟她站在一邊 - RUTH: Honey, it's okay, it's okay. - Taking her side.
- 她只是好奇而已 - 現在我吃不下了 - Now I can't eat. - She's just curious.
- 沒事 沒事 - 她才8歲 - It's okay, it's okay. - She's an eight-year-old kid.
你到底怎麼了？ What's the matter with you?
你只是太聰明了
RUTH: You'rejust too smart.
沒事了 It's okay.
你之前為什麼這麼衝動 I wanna know why you're acting this way.
市場現在腥風血雨的 The fucking market is a bloodbath.
- 啊！真該死 - 嘿 嘿 嘿 (GROANS)
- Hey, hey, hey. - God damn it.
別著急 爸爸 Take it... Dad.
該死的玩意 Fucking thing.
出什麼事了？你還好嗎？ What's going on? Are you all right?
我前不久開始吃這些降血壓的藥 (STAMMERS) l starled these blood pressure pills.
有點頭暈 Makes me dizzy.
- 或許你應該隔幾天再吃 - 不行 - Maybe you should take a couple days off. - No, I can't.
我早上一起床就得去辦公室 I have to be at the office first thing in the morning.
- 要去見家得寶的創始人 - 重新安排吧 - Founder of Home Depot. - Reschedule.
- 你知道... - 這個該死的東西 - You know... - This fucking thing.
如果你能相信我 If you ever trusted me to help you with the advisory,
去跟這些顧問打交道
我可以幫你分擔很多事務的 you know, I could handle this kind of thing for you.
這是我該關心的事 不是你的 It's my business, not yours.
如果你去世之後怎麼辦？ Well, what happens when you're gone?
我現在不想談這個問題 -L'm not having this discussion with you. -lt's a legitimate question.
這是個合法的問題 -L'm not having this discussion with you. - What is it, Dad?
- 我現在不想跟你討論這件事 - 你會怎麼辦 爸爸？
告訴我 怎麼辦？ Tell me. What is it?
意思是我不合格嗎？ Is it that I'm not cut out?
- 你沒聽到我剛剛說什麼嗎？- 您實話跟我說吧 -(STAMMERS) Are you not listening? - Just be honest with me.
- 告訴我吧 - 你難道沒看到我每天都在處理些什麼 - Just tell me. - Do you not see what I have to deal with,
每天都在跟些什麼爛攤子打交道嗎？ the shit that I have to go through on a daily basis?
所以啊... 這就是我想說的 No, that's why... That's my point. (CHUCKLES)
還有那些該死的混蛋給我出的難題？ The fucking shit that they put me through?
以及他們想看到我出醜？ That they're trying to fuck me all the time?
想從我手裏騙錢？你覺得你能處理好這些嗎？ Steal from me? Do you think you can do that?
你覺得自己能夠勝任嗎？ - Do you think you can deal with that? - Yes, I can.
- 我覺得我能行 - 可我不這麼覺得 I don't think you can deal with it. Bullshit. I don't think so.
純屬扯淡
你不能消化好這些 你沒這個天賦 You can't stomach that stuff. Thafs not in you.
安迪或許可以 但你不行 Andy maybe, but not you.
什麼？ What?
等等 你剛剛說什麼？ Wait, what are you saying? Are you saying that Andy...
你是說安迪...
你想說什麼？ What are you saying? Andy's better at his job than I am?
安迪比我更能勝任現在的工作？
- 馬克 - 我每天都有去那個該死的辦公室上班 - Mark. - I go to that fucking offlce every single day.
跟他做的事情一模一樣 I do the same thing that he does.
我他媽給了你一個業務去運作 I gave you a fucking business to run. Are you not happy with that?
這樣你還不滿意？
這還不夠好？ - Was that not good enough for you'? -lt is definitely good enough for me, Dad.
我當然已經很滿意了 爸爸
- 我只是想... - 那就他媽的別這麼多怨言 -L'm just trying... - Well, then shut the fuck up
稍微表現出一點感激之情吧 and give me a little fucking gratitude.
說一句 "謝謝你 爸爸" 難道就這麼難？ Say, "l'm... Thanks, Dad." Can't you do that?
怎麼 你以為這個世界上的人都欠你？ What do you think? The whole fucking world owes you something?
這個世界他媽的什麼都不欠你 The whole fucking world owes you nothing.
你必須通過自己努力去爭取 我一直也是跟你媽媽這麼說的 You gotta work for it, and I always say this with your mother.
這就是出生在有錢人家的問題 需要不斷地去教育 This is the problem with having money, an education.
很多東西不是伸手便取的 Nothing is earned.
而是需要你通過努力 自己爭取得到的 You want something, you gotta fucking work for it.
你覺得我沒有努力？ What, you don't think I have?
對你而言 就像是安裝灑水器 For you, ii was installing sprinklers.
對我而言 就像是請建築工人開溝挖渠 For me, it was digging ditches on a construction crew.
如果沒有類似的經驗 I never would have started Home Depot if I hadn't had that experience.
我也不會開創家得樂
肯 我很尊重你的時間 Ken, I wanna be respectful of your time, so I'm gonna get right to it.
所以打算直入正題
我開始了一個非常高端的基金項目 L'm starting a new, highly-exclusive fund. It's gonna have just five investors.
只需要5個投資人
還是運用目前一直使用的 Same split-strike conversion strategy that's performed so consistenily.
價差執行轉換套利策略
但是 很明顯 But, frankly, this fund's gonna have even higher returns.
這個基金可以帶來更高的收益
唯一的問題就是 The only thing is that it relies on the market volatility that we're seeing now,
它非常依賴現在的市場波幅
所以我需要把籌集到的錢 馬上投入進去 so I gotta put the money together right away.
你現在的基金已經運作了很久了 對吧？ Your current fund's been running for a while, hasn't it?
對 幾十年了 It has. Decades. Double-digit returns every year.
每年都有雙倍的收益
這個新基金你能保證有更高的收益嗎？ And you're promising even better returns for the new fund?
這是一個非常難得的機會 肯 -It's a unique opportunity, Ken. - Uh-huh.
嗯哼 So I'm asking myself only one question.
只有一個問題讓我有所顧慮
如果我是和你長期合作的客戶 What if I'm a longtime client of yours,
我要是聽說有這麼好的機會 and, uh, how would I feel getting shafted for new customers?
卻被新客戶搶走了 我會怎麼想？
我當然還有很多其他的客戶 還有其它的基金 There are other people that I do other funds with,
不過這個項目我不想讓他們參加 因為他們沒有... but I don't wanna include them in this because they're not...
- 喔 等一下 - 他們不是... - Well, wait a second. -(STUTTERS) They're not the ones...
等一下 我有點弄不明白了 Okay, just a second. (STUTFERS) I'm a little confused.
你有這樣的基金 有那樣的基金 You got this fund, you got that fund...
還有和你長期合作的客戶 You got people who are long-term customers and you're not gonna...
但是你卻不願意把這個項目分享給他們... Those people are already taken care of.
因為他們已經投資了很好的項目了
我們跟他們有其它的合作基金 We have... We have other funds with them.
伯尼 我不知道你到底想表達些什麼 Bernie, I don't... I don't know what you're trying to say.
- 其實... - 我很困惑 - Well... - I'm confused.
你要在其他客戶不知情的情況下 為新基金籌集資金？ The new fund is getting money before the other people?
我不是這個意思 No, no. Ken, that's not what I'm saying.
你就是這個意思 No, that's exactly what you're saying.
我想說的不是這個 我為他們都考慮好了的 No, I'm not saying that. They are taken care of.
給他們安排了其它的項目 I have other arrangements with them.
這裏面感覺有些不乾淨 Something is not kosher here.
- 有問題 - 絕對乾淨 - Something. - No, it's all kosher.
我覺得一點都不乾淨 完全是胡說八道 I think it's not kosher. I think it's total bullshit.
這就是我的想法 That's what I think.
我感覺很有問題 It's hitting me the wrong way. Something is wrong here.
絕對有問題
而且你滿嘴胡話 I think you're full of shit, thafs what I think.
我要趕緊離開這裏 I'm getting the hell out of here.
那傢伙入伙嗎？ Is that guy in?
你在開玩笑嗎 You're kidding me.
好吧 除了梅迪西 金格 All right, well, uh, between Medici, Kingate, and, uh, the fucking Spaniards,
還有該死的西班牙人
這裏最少也得有10億5千萬了 that's minus $1.5 billion right there.
感謝費爾菲爾德 到11月可以只會剩下9億8千萬 Uh, thanks to Fairfield, we're down $980 in November
到12月 最少可能能達到5億8千萬 and, uh, we're looking at at least minus $580 in December, Bern.
不過市場應該會回暖的 (INHALES DEEPLY) We write that fucking check, it's gonna bounce.
我們還剩下3億 We got $300 million left.
你打算怎麼辦？ What do you wanna do?
嘿 卡爾 我有個好消息 Hey, Carl, this is great news.
有個好消息要告訴你 I just want you to know it's great news.
- 好的 保重 - 好的 沒問題 - CARL: All right, take care. - Okay, of course, of course.
- 那好 晚點再聊 - 就這樣 - Great. Okay, talk soon. - ThatS it. All right?
- 謝謝 - 好的 - Thank you. - Okay.
他入資2億5千萬 He's in for $250.
好吧 總比沒有好 All right. That's not nothin'.
不過還是不夠 - No, but it's not enough. - No, it's definitely not enough.
絕對不夠
棕擱灘的那個笨蛋怎麼樣？ What about that schmuck from Palm Beach?
不行 那個傢伙一出現 No, no, no, itwas, like, 20 fucking questions with that guy.
就會問各種各樣的問題 He wanted to know why our comptroller was based in Bermuda,
比如他想知道 我們的控制器
為什麼是設置在百慕大的
為什麼我們的審計員只有一個人 why our auditor was a one-man operation
而且是在紐約北部的零售商場工作的 working out of a strip mall in upstate New York.
那傢伙事兒太多了 It was a whole fucking thing with that guy.
我知道這次談話可能會很不容易 ANDREW: It's not an easy conversation.
我已經把這邊的準備工作都做好了 CATH ERIN E2 I've already laid the groundwork for this.
你可以不用去那邊的辦公室了 You're hardly in the office anymore.
我想說的是... I think what I say is that...
安德魯 親愛的 Andrew, sweetheart, you don't have to sell him on a decision
你不用為他 出賣自己的夢想
或者動搖自己的決心 that you're making for yourself.
- 你的想法才是最重要的 - 我知道 - This is about you. - I know, I know.
但我知道他肯定會很失望的 這才是最難的部分 It's just hard because I know he's gonna be disappointed.
但我不會 Well, I'm not.
我很為你驕傲 Iam very proud of you.
謝謝 Thanks.
好了 我們回家見吧 Okay, I'll see you when I get home.
我愛你 I love you.
爸爸？ ANDREW: Dad?
你沒事吧？出什麼事了？ You okay? What's wrong?
背部痙攣而已 越來越痛了 0h, fucking back spasm. It's all seized up. This is the only position that doesn't kill.
只有這個姿勢 才會感覺沒那麼疼
抱歉 要不要我給你拿藥？ -L'm sorry. Can I get you something? - I already took a bunch of pills.
我已經吃了好多了
- 你有事嗎？- 沒什麼事 - What's up'? - Uh, nothing.
- 晚點再談吧 - 你到底有什麼事？ - We can talk later. - Look, what do you need?
算了吧 No, forget it.
有話別噎著！ Fucking spit it out.
其實我有件事想跟說 - Well, I wanna talk to you about a few things. - Then spit it out. Come on.
那就快點說
其實 我... Well... Well, look, um...
我想換個工作 I'm thinking about taking office space somewhere else.
你是想離開這個行業？ You're thinking about leaving the business?
我已經準備好自己出去打拼了 I'm ready to strike out on my own.
我只是擔心交給你處理的那部分生意 And here I was worried about the business I handed you.
我有自己的職業目標 Look, I have professional goals of my own.
我也希望有一天能開自己的公司 And I'd like to run my own company someday
很明顯這個目標 在這裏是實現不了的 and it's obviously not happening here anytime soon.
你真他媽自私 安德魯 You're pretty fucking selfish, Andrew.
你真不要臉 You got some fucking nerve.
我在這裏工作了好久 卻合作夥伴的頭銜都沒有 I've worked here forever and I'm still not a partner.
招牌上寫的都是你自己的名字 It's your name on the door, as you love to say.
你可能察覺不到你現在的表現有多自私 You obviously can't see how selfish you're being right now.
我問你件事情 你知道有人出多少價 Let me ask you something, do you know what kind of offers
想買這家公司嗎？ I've gotten 1o sell this firm?
- 知道嗎？- 不知道 - Do you? - No, I don't.
前不久高曼的人出價十億 The last one was from Goldman for a billion dollars.
什麼？那你為什麼不賣？ What? Why didn't you take it?
因為我不想賣 Because I didn't wanna take it.
其實我比任何人都想接受這個價碼 I need it like I need a fucking hole in the head.
可是我不想賣的最主要的原因 And the main reason I didn't take it is because of you boys, that's why.
是因為你們兩個
因為有一天 我希望把公司交給你們 Because one day, I want this to be yours with your name on the door.
讓你們的名字也能寫在招牌上
不然你以為我為什麼不賣？ I mean, why else would you think I'd do it?
不用客氣 You're welcome.
- 不用客氣 - 我聽到了 - You're welcome. - Yeah, I heard you.
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)
伯尼 你妻子知道多少內幕？ - Bernie, how far... - Did your wife know?
伯尼 你妻子知情嗎？ Bernie, did yourwife knovfl
據知情人士透露給 REPORTER: People familiar with the case tell CBS News federal investigators
CBS新聞的信息稱 聯邦調查局的探員們
在馬多夫的公司裏揭破了 are ripping apart 20 years of fraud inside Madoffs firm,
長達20年的騙局
除開對伯尼的調查 moving beyond Bernie, looking at sons Andrew and Mark,
還有對其兒子 安德魯和馬克
他們二人管理公司的商業活動 who directed trading activities,
還有其弟弟皮特 and brother Peter, the companyS Chief Compliance Ofiicer.
公司的首席合規官的調查
但他們三人都因為沒有違法行為 而沒有被起訴 None have been charged with any wrongdoing.
現在 伯尼·馬多夫 So, now as Bernie Madoff prepares for what may be his last night
- 正準備享受他最後一晚的安寧... - 嘿 of comfort in... - Hey.
怎麼了？ What is it?
可能純粹是浪費時間吧 Hmm. I don't know, maybe it's a waste of time, but I thought that I would try to write.
不過我還是想寫點東西
寫什麼？ - Write what? -(CHUCKLES)
一本書吧 I don't know, a book.
這可能聽起來很蠢 Ah, it sounds stupid.
不 一點也不蠢 No, it doesn't sound stupid.
可能寫得不是很好 不過我... (STAMMERS) It may not be any good, bui l, um...
只完成了開頭 This isjust the opening.
你想聽嗎？ - Do you wanna hear it? - Yeah, I'd love to hear it.
當然想
"直到2008年10月10日截止" "Up until December 10th, 2008,
"我全部的人生都是在對父親的" "l spent the entirety of my life in awe of my father.
"敬畏下度過的"
"每一次成功" "L judged every accomplishment, every failure, professionally or personally,
"每一次失敗 不論是職業上的還是生活中的"
"只要與他的生活相違背 我就反思自己" "against the life he lived.
"他的認可成為我唯一的追求" "His approval meant everything, maybe too much,
"或許追求得過了頭"
"從我記事開始" "and for as long as I can remember,
"我就想盡辦法 努力工作 為的就是讓他驕傲" "l worked as hard as I could to make him proud.
"然而有一天" "And then one day,
"我發現自己的父親 跟我想像中是不一樣的" "l found out that my father was not the man I thought.
"他是一個罪犯 一個我不尊敬的人" "He was a criminal, a man I didn't respect.
"然而這個人 也就是我父親" "And yet this man, my father,
"卻也是那個教我明辨是非" "is the same man who taught me right from wrong,
"教我如何成為一個公平、正直、誠實的人" "taught me to be fair and decent and honest, taught me about the importance of character,
"教會我角色的重要性"
"教會我如何當一個好丈夫" "what it means to be a husband,
"還有最重要的 如何當一個好爸爸的人" "and, most importantly, how to be a father.
"我是伯尼·馬多夫的兒子" "L am the son of Bernie Madoff.
"我曾想我可能永遠也無法擺脫這個頭銜了" "L used to think that I could never escape that.
"現在我確定自己擺脫不了了" "Now I'm certain I won't.
"那些與他最親密的人" "Why is it so hard to believe
"其實最難識出他是罪犯這種說法 怎麼就這麼難令人相信？" "that those closest to him wouldn't see him as a criminal?
"為什麼一個兒子認為自己的父親" "Why is it so hard to believe that his son would think his father could do no wrong?
"永遠都不會錯這種說法 這麼難以令人信服？"
"當我看著自己最小的兒子 尼克的時候" "When I look at my youngest son, Nick,
"我很害怕有一天他長大 會問我" "l fear the day when he's old enough to ask what his grandfather was like.
"他的爺爺長什麼樣"
"他是一個什麼樣的人？" "What kind of man was he?
如果我告訴他 他是個惡魔 "Ifl tell him he was evil,
那我該如何解釋... "how can I explain that I'm... (VOICE BREAKS)
(CRIES)
我該... "That l..."
你寫的很好 馬克 It's good, Mark.
真的很好 It's really good.
謝謝你 Yeah, I... I don't know.
所以是有認罪協議嗎？ CATHERINE: So, is it a plea deal?
不 他只用認罪就行了 MARTIN: No. He's just pleading guilty.
所以 他只需要對每一項指控 MARK: So, he's just gonna plead guilty to all the charges and that's it?
認罪就完事了？
看起來是這樣的 MARTIN; It looks that way.
- 也就是說 不會開庭受審？- 不會 - So there will be no trial? - No.
你們有看到報紙上關於我們的報道嗎？ MARK: Have you read what they're saying about us?
每一天他們都想要取我們的項上首級... Every fucking day they're calling for our head.
每家報紙 每個博客 都是如此 Every paper, evely biog.
如果不開庭受審 這些人怎麼會知道 How are those people gonna know we're innocent if there's no trial? How?
我們是無辜的？
- 怎麼能知道？- 一旦他被關起來... - How? - The sooner he is locked up...
- 胡說 - 一切就結束了 - Bullshit. - This will be over.
結束不了 It's gonna fucking linger.
這些疑問 和對我們的質疑 都將保存 The questions, the suspicions, the fucking paparazzi camped out...
那些狗仔也會在我們家門口埋伏...
他們沒有指控他合謀嗎？ - Are they not charging him with conspiracy? - No, he won't plead guilty to conspiracy.
沒有
馬多夫先生 你會認罪嗎？ REPORTER: Mr. Madoff, are you going to plead guilty?
他們應該指控這一條 並且開庭審判 MARK: Yeah, well, they should charge him anyway and force a trial.
如果他們把爸爸送上審判席 會發生什麼？ ANDREW: If they took Dad to trial, what would happen?
你自己好好想想 馬克 Just think about it, Mark.
你說的可是把全世界最富有 You're talking about putting the richest
最有權力的人 告上法庭 and most powerful people in the world up on that stand.
你說的可是摩根大通公司 You're talking about JP Morgan,
美國大通 匯豐銀行 瑞士銀行 Chase, HSBC, Swiss Banks.
你說的可是把世界的金融體系告上法庭 You're talking about the world's financial system on trial.
我雖然不是陰謀論者 Now, l'm not a conspiracy theorist, but trust me, that will never happen. Ever.
不過相信我 這是不可能發生的
絕不可能
所以 接受吧 So, no, there won't be a trial.
不會有開庭受審的
公眾也不會知道真相 The public won't know the truth. And we'll be lefl to fend for ourselves.
我們只能自己保護自己了
我不明白 馬克 STEPHANIEI I don't understand, Mark.
你想讓爸爸開庭受審嗎？ - Do you want a trial? - No.
不想
那你到底想要什麼？ Well, what do you want?
我想要回原來的生活 (SNIFFLES) lwant my life back.
(PHONE RINGING)
我們不在家 有事請留言 STEPHANIE: We're not here. Leave a message.
又是媽媽 Mom again.
嗨 又是我 RUTH: Hi, it's me again.
你們的媽媽 Your mother.
我也不知道為什麼還要打來 I don't know why I'm calling.
留這麼多條留言 I feel like such a moron leaving all these messages, begging you.
祈求你們 我感覺自己
像個智障一樣
我也不知道 (SNIFFLES) I don't know.
我好想你們 I miss you. I miss Stephanie, I miss Audrey.
想念斯蒂芬妮 想念奧黛麗
我也好久沒見到小尼克了 (SIGHS)
我連自己的外孫都見不上 I haven't even seen little Nick. I haven't even seen my grandson.
我該怎麼辦 馬克？ What am I supposed to do, Mark?
我也沒有辦法了 (SIGHS) I'm stuck.
我很抱歉 抱歉他所做的一切 I'm so sorry. I'm sorry for what he did.
我也不知道他是怎麼想的 I don't know what he was thinking. I can't even fathom it.
也不知道他為什麼這麼做
我只是不明白為什麼你們這麼恨我 I just don't understand why you're so angry at me.
我知道你們想讓我離開他 I know you want me to leave him, but I can't just abandon him.
可我不能就這麼拋棄他啊
50年的婚姻 不是隨隨便便 How am I supposed to just walk out of a 50-year marriage?
就走得出去的
他是我的一生 He's my lifetime.
是我全部的記憶 He's my whole, entire memory.
其它的事我不清楚 I don't know anything else.
不過我從沒一個人生活過 I've never been on my own.
我沒你倆勇敢 I'm not as brave as you two.
回我電話 Call me.
(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS)
你要如何回應罪狀一... JUDGE: How do you now plead to count one,
關於證券欺詐的指控 the charge of securities fraud, guilty or not guilty?
有罪還是無罪？
有罪 Guilty.
你要如何回應罪狀二... How do you plead to count two,
關於投資咨詢詐騙的指控 the charge of investment advisory fraud, guilty or not guilty?
有罪還是無罪？ Guilty.
有罪
你要如何回應罪狀三... How do you now plead to count three,
關於郵件欺詐的指控？ the charge of mail fraud, guilty or not guilty?
有罪還是無罪？ Guilty.
有罪
- 你要如何回應罪狀四... - 有罪 - How do you now plead to count four? - Guilty.
- 你要如何回應罪狀五... - 有罪 - How do you now plead to count five? - Guilty.
- 你要如何回應罪狀六... - 有罪 - How do you now plead to count six? - Guilty.
- 你要如何回應罪狀七... - 有罪 - How do you now plead to count seven? - Guilty.
- 你要如何回應罪狀八... - 有罪 - How do you now plead to count eight? - Guilty.
- 你要如何回應罪狀九... - 有罪 - How do you now plead to count nine? - Guilty.
有罪 Guilty.
隨著馬多夫先生的認罪 As Mr. Madoff has pled guilty,
他將不再擁有無罪推定的權利 he is no longer entitled to the presumption of innocence.
考慮到他的年紀 他有逃跑的動機 In light of his age, he has incentive to flee.
也有逃跑的能力 He has the means to flee
因此 保釋被撤銷 and thus, bail is revoked and the defendant is remanded.
被告將會被還押候審
尊敬的法官大人 能否請你考慮一下 Your Honor, would Your Honor consider, respectfully,
給他一天時間... a stay so that we might appeal...
你的要求被駁回 Your request for a stay is denied.
馬多夫先生 審判當天再見 Mr. Madoff, I will see you at sentencing.
- 抱歉 伯尼 - 現在休會 - Sorry, Bernie. - We are adjourned.
(GAVEL BANGS)
曼哈頓改造監獄 MAN: If you are visiting an inmate in the maximum-security wing,
如果要探望
最高警戒牢房的犯人
請在右邊排成一列縱隊 form a single-file line to your right.
停 Stop here.
鑰匙 Keys.
轉過身 Turn around.
腿張開 Open your legs.
我旁邊的牢房裏 關了一個恐怖分子 BERNIE: In the cell next to me, they got this terrorist.
是個酋長什麼的 我記不得他名字 Some sheikh. I can'! remember his name.
不過他住我旁邊 總會記住的 But that's my neighbor. Go figure.
我不明白 他們為什麼 RUTH: I don't understand why they put you in maximum security.
要把你關進最高警戒的牢房裏
公寓裏的東西都打包好了嗎？ - Did you finish packing up the apartment? - RUTH: There's not much left to pack.
反正也沒剩下什麼東西可以打包了
幾乎所有東西都被他們收走了 They're taking everything.
他們有人竟然還對我說 They even said to me,
"請把你的內褲和睡衣交給我們" "We're gonna need your underwear and nightgowns."
- 誰說的？- 美國法警 - Who said that? - U.S. Marshals.
他們要你的內褲幹嘛？ What would they want your underwear for?
賣掉啊 他們要開拍賣會什麼的 They're gonna sell it. They're gonna auction it off.
真是不可思議 It's unbelievable.
這些人就沒點下限可言 Nothing is off-limits to these people.
我連想都懶得去想 RUTH: I don't even like to think about it.
太讓人冒冷汗了 It's so spooky.
你跟孩子們說過話嗎？ Have you spoken to the boys?
除了我妹妹 No one speaks to me.
現在沒人跟我說話 Except my sister.
瓊甚至還提出 讓我搬過去博卡跟她一起住 Joan even offered to let me oome stay with her in Boca.
- 她好歹是你妹妹啊 - 是啊 我知道 - Well, she's your sister. - Yeah, I know,
但是考慮到她和鮑勃因為你... but considering she and Bob lost everything they had...
已經傾家蕩產了 It was all with you.
所以我很在意 I mean, it meant a lot to me.
是啊 真是不幸 Yeah, that was unfortunate.
所以我才會申請給我幾天自由的時間 That's why I was hoping to have those few extra days
可以確保所有人都能安置好 to make sure everyone was taken care of.
我感覺自己就像個笨蛋一樣 I just feel like such a total putz.
當你不知道發生了什麼時 L...
I mean, when you don't know what's going on,
你都不知道該怎麼跟其他人解釋 you don't even know what to say.
我該怎麼解釋考麥德證券公司撤資的事？ I mean, how am I supposed to explain the Cohmad withdrawals?
你讓我把錢從一個賬號 You asked me to transfer money from one account to another.
轉到另一個賬號上 I do it and a few hours later, you tell me it's all a Ponzi scheme.
我照做了 可幾個小時後
你卻告訴我 這一切都是龐氏騙局
我腦袋裏有好多問題 All these questions and I don't have any answers, Bernie.
但是根本找不到答案 伯尼
即使你提前告知我 Even if you had told me, I'm not sure I would've turned you in.
我也不知道會不會檢舉你
我不知道為什麼會有這種想法 I don't know what that says about me.
這就是可悲之處吧 That's the tragedy of it.
馬多夫先生 你害怕會失去自己的家嗎？ REPORTER: Mr. Madoff, are you scared you're gonna lose your home?
馬多夫先生 你有什麼話要對那些... Mr. Madoff, what do you have to say to all of the people...
- 請走開 - 你到底有什麼毛病？ Please go away.
請不要來煩我們 STEPHANIE: What the hell is wrong with you?
你能把攝像機放下嗎？ - Please leave us alone. - STEPHANIE: Can you put the camera down?
你覺得有負罪感嗎？ Do you feel guilty? Do you feel remorseful?
有悔恨感嗎？
你害怕嗎？ You feeling like you're scared?
覺得自己有責任嗎？ Do you feel any responsibility?
你究竟想幹什麼？ What the hell is wrong with you?
什麼人才會追著一家人不肯鬆手啊？ What kind of person chases a family?
你沒權力 碰我的私人財產... REPORTER: You don't have any right to touch my personal...
- 我可以因為你推我 而起訴你 - 去死吧！想起訴我的人多了 - I could sue you for shoving me. - Oh, fuck you! Get in line.
你很享受嗎？ Do you enjoy this? Do you enjoy...
我不明白 馬克 STEPHANIE: I don't get it, Mark.
- 我不明白 - 不明白什麼？ - I don't get it. - What's there to get?
你的第一直覺竟然是拋棄我們 我不明白 Your first instinct was to abandon us. I don't get that.
- 我是在這裏等你們 - 你把他的嬰兒車 I was waiting foryou here.
扔在了馬路中央 馬克 You left his stroller in the middle of the street, Mark.
- 明明是路邊 - 這不重要 -It was on the sidewalk. -lt doesn't matter.
你把所有爛攤子都丟給我處理 You just left me to deal with everything.
你有意識到這有多不公平嗎？ Do you understand how unfair that is?
他們是來找我的 This is about me. They want me.
- 跟你無關事 - 這不是你一個人的事 - This isn't about you. - No, this is about all of us.
我已經厭倦了 你假裝這一切跟我們無關的做法了 I... I am sick and tired of you acting like it's not.
- 你知道... - 所以你想怎麼辦 史蒂芬妮？離婚嗎？ - You know... - So what do you want, Steph?
You want a divorce?
表現出一點感恩之心就行 Just some acknowledgment.
金融詐騙犯 NEWSCASTER: (ON TV) Financial swindler Bernie Madoff is awaiting sentencing
伯尼·馬多夫正在曼哈頓的改造監獄
等待審判 與此同時 偵查員也在努力調查
伯尼一案: 他的兩個兒子知情嗎？他應該告訴他們嗎？ at the Manhattan Correctional Facility as investigators dig in...
伯尼一案: 他的兩個兒子知情嗎？他應該告訴他們嗎？ ...to see if those who were closest to MadofL.
那些和馬多夫最親近的人 他們的情況...
真是難以置信 Great, This is unbelievable.
這是有史有來最大規模的龐氏騙局 ...what has been called the largest Ponzi scheme ever.
他們當然知道 但是他們會付出代價嗎？ MAN: (ON TV) As we know, Bernie Madoff has continued to maintain
如我們所知 伯尼·馬多夫一直堅稱
整場詐騙案都是他一手操縱並實施的 與其他人無關
that he and only he perpetuated this crime.
我建議把他倆和他們媽媽都關進監獄 But it's clear the money trail is not real.
但很明顯資金的走向是有問題的
每天馬克都會寄給你一些文章 CATHERINE: Every day, Mark sends you articles,
那些他讀到或看到 惹他生氣的東西 things he's read, things that pissed him oft
這不公平 It's not fair.
不管是對你 還是對我 都是不公平的 It's not fair to you and it's not fair to me.
我同意 他現在太執著了 I agree. He's stuck.
不停地在博客上找這些東西來看 He keeps going in circles, reading blag after biog. It's unhealthy.
這是很不健康的 But what do you want me 1o do, Catherine?
但你覺得我能怎麼辦 凱瑟琳？
稍微離他遠點 Create a little distance.
如果他不是我唯一剩下的家人 那會容易得多 Well, lhafd be easier if he wasn't the only family member l have left.
(CAR DOOR SLAMS)
馬克·馬多夫和安德魯·馬多夫的 NEWSCASTER: (on TV) Mark and Andrew Madoff's attorneys
代理律師聲稱 他們無罪
這些搞信託基金的白人混蛋去死吧 say they are guilty of no crimes,
不過當局及受害者 都表示不能接受這種說法... but authorities and victims are having tmuble swallowing...
馬多夫那兩個溺愛的兒子應該被關起來
把兩個兒子處死！
安德魯·馬多夫 Andrew fucking Madoff.
你最近還好嗎 裏德？ How have you been, Reed?
你爸爸把所有人都騙了之後 Well, after your father fucked us all over, things have been fucking fantastic.
我的生活變得很精彩
我去參加了很多工作的面試 Yeah, lots of job interviews. No one willing to hire me, of course.
當然沒人願意僱用我
在馬多夫證券公司工作了7年 我在圈內應該名聲挺大的 Working at BLM for seven years, I guess I'm tainted.
我知道現在是非常時期 Well, l know it's been tough on all of us, but you're a solid trader.
不過你是個很有實力的交易員 You'll find ajob in no time.
你應該很快就能找到工作的
我還有很多問題 Yeah, I get a lot of questions. Yeah, especially about you, you and Mark.
特別是關於你的 你和馬克的
"所以他的兒子都知情 對嗎？" "So the sons knew, right?
"他們也參與了的 這是肯定的" "They were in on it. They had to be, right?"
裏德 當我發現這件事的時候 我頭都快炸了 Reed, when I found out, it was like my head exploded.
- 我只是... - 噓 你聽到了嗎？ Ijust...
- 什麼？- 是世界上最小的小提琴 - Shh. You hear that? - What?
在演奏世界上最悲情的歌 It's the world's tiniest violin playing the worlds saddest fucking song.
我知道你現在很傷心... I understand you're upset...
那幫個忙可以嗎？ Yeah, well, how about making it right?
我在找我45萬的獎金 'Cause I was looking at a $450,000 bonus.
很多交易員都沒收到獎金 裏德 A lot of traders were owed bonuses, Reed.
你不是唯一一個 我們都被騙了 You weren't the only one. We all got screwed.
我還以為你只在乎家人呢 L thought you were all about family.
你他媽當我是誰？我不是你家人嗎 安迪？ Well, what the fuck am l? Am I not family, Andy?
他媽的錢在哪兒？ Come on, where's the fucking money'? Whafd you do with ihe money?
你們把錢藏哪兒去了？ We all know you stole it. Of oourse you took it. You're a criminal!
所有人都知道是你們私吞了
這是當然的 因為你們是罪犯！ I got fucked over, ioo!
我也是受害者！
被我自己的父親！我被我自己的父親騙了！ By my own father! My own father fucked me over!
那是你的婊子嗎？我看到你了 婊子 Yeah, is that yourwhore? I see you, whore!
- 嘿！你... - 嘿！ - Hey! You... - CATHERINE: Hey!
嘿！ Hey!
住手！安迪 到車上來 Stop it! Andy, get in the car.
嘿！天啊 快上車 Hey! Jesus, get in the car.
天啊 Jesus.
- 混蛋 嘿！- 他媽的這是你的薯餅 - Asshole. Hey! - REED: Here's your fucking latke,
- 還有克尼什餡餅 - 嘿！ -knish or whatever, you fuck. - CATHERINE: Hey!
去死吧！ Fuck you! I know you're in on it!
我知道你是同謀！
呃 (CATHERINE GROANS)
問題是所有錢都去哪兒了？ MAN 1: (ON TV) The big question is, where did all the money go?
歐文·皮卡爾 法院指定的受托人 Irving Picard, the court-appointed trustee, the Iiquidator,
清算人
正在努力尋找消失的數十億美元 is seamhing for the billions that disappeared
並通過清理馬多夫現存的資產 and trying to recover as much as possible fmm Madoffs remaining assets.
盡可能的彌補損失
在所有知情人員當中 Of all the people that should've known, his brother and his sons,
他的弟弟還有兒子
這些成天跟他在同一屋檐下工作的人 who worked under the same roof with him, should've known.
應該也名列其中
- 很多人都這麼認為 - 他們知情嗎？ - One would think so, yes. - Did they know?
我的看法是 他們是知情的 MAN 2: My belief is, yes, they knew.
根據他們的個人交易情況 不難判斷 Clearly, they would have to have known what was going on,
他們肯定是知情的 -given their own personal transactions... - MARK: Oh, we should've known?
哦 我們肯定知情？
我們是搞造市的 We worked for market-making. He worked for IA.
他才是搞投資顧問的
這都可以扯上關係？ - How would we have known? - If they turn out to be untouchable,
如果他們最後在刑法上 是不受懲罰的
那麼你會不會依據民法讓他們破產？ criminally, do you intend to bankrupt them civilly?
不管他們有沒有涉嫌犯罪 MAN 2: Whether or not they have a criminal problem,
我們都會盡我們所能去追問他們 we will pursue them as far as we can pursue them.
如果最後的導向 是讓他們破產 And if that leads to bankrupting them, then that's what will happen.
那也在所不辭
坐在審判室裏的男人搶劫了我 WOMAN: The man sitting in this courtroom robbed me.
他如同路斃的動物般將我拋棄 He discarded me like roadkill.
當他的良知已如此不堪 竟然連埃利·維塞爾的錢 What can we possibly say good about Madoff
他也敢騙時 when he sank so low as to steal from Elie Wiesel,
我們還能對馬多夫說出一句好話嗎
難道維塞爾一生所經受的苦難還不夠多嗎 as if Wiesel hasn't already suffered enough in his lifetime.
我和我妻子不是百萬富翁 My wife and I are not millionaires.
我們一輩子都在辛勤的工作 We worked hani for all our lives and he took our entire life savings.
而他奪走了我們所有的積蓄
馬多夫先生不僅詐騙了成千上萬位投資者 Mr. Madoff not only defrauded thousands of investors,
他還精妙地掌握了操縱政府的藝術 he mastered the art of manipulating our government.
馬多夫從我家騙走的錢 The money Madoff stole from my family had been set aside to take care of my brother
其實是專門存起來 照顧我弟弟用的
因為他的下半輩子 because he's gonna need medical assistance for the rest of his life.
都需要醫療援助來維持生活
如果他想要保護自己的家人 If he's attempting to protect his family, he should not be given the opportunity
那他就不應該被給予這樣的機會
因為我們 也就是他的受害者 because we, his victims,
我們也想保護自己的家人 did not have the same opportunity to protect our families.
但卻沒能享受這樣的機會
你給你家人唯一的遺產就是恥辱 MAN 1: You have left your family with a legacy of shame.
你的婚姻是在地獄裏結合的 MAN 2: You have a marriage made in hell, and that is where you are going to return.
現在你也算故地重遊了
我只希望他判的刑足夠長 MAN 3: I only hope his prison sentence is long enough
長到他的牢房變成他的棺材 that his jail cell becomes his coffin.
願上帝對你不要仁慈 MAN 4: May God spare you no mercy.
我對一系列的苦難和痛苦 BERNIE: I am responsible for a great deal of suffering and pain.
都負有責任
我知道 I understand that.
在意識到自己所造成的 I live in a tormented state,
這些苦難和痛苦之後 now knowing of all the pain and suffering that I have created.
我也陷入了極度痛苦的漩渦
這種感受 將會永遠伴隨我 That's something I will live with for the rest of my life.
以後的日子
人們指控我只會保持沉默 People have accused me of being silent and not being sympathetic.
而毫無憐憫之心
這是不對的 That is not true.
我向所有受害者道歉 I apologize to my victims.
現在我將轉身過來面對你們 I will turn and face you.
對不起 I'm sorry.
雖然我知道已經來不及了 I know that doesn't help.
法官大人 Your Honor, thank you for lisiening.
我說完了
我們必須瞭解到 JUDGE: The message must be sent
馬多夫先生所犯下的罪行 that Mr. Madoffs crimes were extraordinarily evil.
是相當罪惡的
這種毫不負責 肆意操縱系統的做法 This kind of irresponsible manipulation of the system
致使無數個受害者遭遇慘痛的損失 takes a staggering human toll.
馬多夫先生一定會受到 Mr. Madoff will get what he deserves
相應的懲罰 and will be punished according to his moral culpabilities.
根據他的道德罪責而定
馬多夫先生 請站起來 Mr. Madoff, please stand.
我作為本庭法官 It is the judgment of this court that the defendant, Bernard L. Madoff,
宣佈被告 伯尼·馬多夫
將被判處 shall be and hereby is sentenced to a term of imprisonment of 150 years.
150年的有期徒刑
(ALL CHEERING)
- 我們的錢怎麼辦 伯尼？- 是啊！ - What about our money, Bernie? - WOMAN: Yes!
我們的錢在哪兒？ Where's our money?
(GAVEL BANGS)
有個小的技術問題 As a technical matter, the sentence must be expressed in months.
判刑的時間必須以月來表示
150年等價於 150 years is equivalent to 1,800 months.
1800個月
現在休庭 We are adjourned.
我們目前所站的位置是聯邦改造監獄 REPORTER: We're standing outside of the Federal Correctional Complex
地處北卡羅來納的布特納 in Burner, North Carolina, where Bernie Madoff just arrived minutes ago.
伯尼·馬多夫剛在幾分鐘前到達了這裏
我們看見馬多夫先生跟其他的罪犯 We saw Mr. Madoff arrive on a bus with a group of other inmates,
一起乘坐公交車到達這裏
他將在這裏服刑150年 where he will serve his 150-year prison sentence.
其中的警衛表示會密切關注他 Oflicials have said he will be watched carefully
以防他做出傷害自己的行為 to ensure he is not a danger to himself as he faces the long years ahead.
因為他將面臨的刑期遙遙無期
佛羅里達 博卡拉頓
嗯
監獄的探訪時間是很自由的 NEWSCASTER: (ON TV) Wsiting hours at the prison are very liberal,
所以跟馬多夫比較熟悉的人稱 他的妻子露絲 and people close to the Madoffs say his wife Ruth
很可能會搬去北卡羅來納 只為離她丈夫近一點 may well move to North Carolina to be close to her husband.
去死吧 混蛋 我他媽在佛羅里達呢 Fuck you, you asshole. I'm in Florida.
他們很相愛 Vely much in love,
就像邦妮和克萊德 just like Bonnie was to Clyde, Charlie.
邦妮會搶銀行 會殺人 Bonnie robbed banks. Bonnie killed people.
- 我像她？- 歡迎輸入以下網址 - And I'm Bonnie? -...by going to our biog,
前往我們的博客關注更多動態 "The World Newser, " at abcnews. com.
我怎麼可能像邦妮？ How am I Bonnie?
邦妮是個殺手 她會殺人 Bonnie was a killer. Bonnie killed people.
我像她？ And I'm Bonnie?
16年來 我一直保守著這個秘密 BERNIE: For 16 years, I kept this secret from my wife, my brother,
不管是對我妻子 我弟弟
還是我兒子 my sons.
我要怎麼一邊保守秘密 How I was able to do that and maintain any degree of sanity,
一邊保持清醒
每次想到這個 我都會很擔心 well, that... That worries me when I think about it.
這個你已經說過了 Yeah, you already mentioned that.
是的 (CLEARS THROAT) Yeah, I did.
但既然都提到你家人了 But while we're on the subject,
那就繼續這個話題 你說你想保護自己的家人 you say you wanted to protec1 your family.
沒錯 BERNIE: Right.
那我們假設一下 But' just an example,
萬一在08年的危機前 what would have happened if at some point before the crisis of '08,
你遭遇了不幸
比如被車撞了 然後去世了怎麼辦？ you'd been hit by a bus, you'd dropped dead?
馬克和安德魯就會成為 Mark and Andrew would've become the owners
這家仍處於 正在犯下歷史上最大規模的 of a firm that was still in the middle
龐氏騙局的公司的老闆 of perpetrating the biggest Ponzi scheme in history.
但是顧問卻是另一個完全獨立的工作 Except the advisory was a completely separate business,
他們是沒有涉獵過的 所以... one in which they had no involvement. so...
但萬一你死了 Bui with you dead
而弗蘭克為了自救 and Frank probably willing to swear to anything to save himself,
很有可能會想盡辦法 自圓其說
在我看來有很大的幾率 seems to me the odds are that as owners and lifelong executives,
這家公司的老闆或者總經理
會被抓進監獄 they'd have gone to jail.
你的兒子將會代替你的位置 被關在這裏 Your sons would be sitting there where you are.
不會的 我會保護他們 No, well, I protected them.
如果你死了 就不能保護他們了 伯尼 WOMAN: You couldn't have protected them if you were dead, Bernie.
那誰會為這起事件負責呢？ So who would've been held responsible?
我 I would've been.
是他們 伯尼 WOMAN: They would've been, Bernie.
他們會為這件事買單 They would've been held responsible,
也就是說下面兩種說法 只有一種是對的 which means one of two things is true.
要麼他們是真的有罪 Either they actually were guilty
願意接受這種風險 and accepted the risks,
要麼就是你願意讓你的兒子因為你所犯的罪名 or you were willing to lel your sons go to jail for the crime you committed.
而被抓進監獄
哪一條是真的 伯尼？ Which is it, Bernie?
我喜歡和你咬文嚼字的感覺 I do like jousting with you.
我沒有在跟你玩遊戲 伯尼 I'm not jousting with you, Bernie.
- 好吧... - 我是很認真地在問你 - Yeah, well... -l'm notjousting with you.
因為在我看來... It seems to me like...
你是在拒絕承認 Like you're refusing
你給自己的家人 to recognize that hazard
所營造的危險的環境 you created for your family.
不僅是你被捕那天所留下的陰影 Notjust the day you were arrested but the hazard that they lived under,
更是你在他們的生活中 所埋下的危險的種子
未知 並且你能操縱這起詐騙案多久 unknowing, for, well, however long
這份危險就會潛伏多久 you were operating this fraud.
最終 他們還是會被免罪的 Eventually, they would be exonerated.
- 就這樣 - 你怎麼能這麼確定這一點 - Period. - WOMAN: How could you have been
然後甘心冒險？ so certain of that,
因為他們從沒參與過我的計劃 that you were willing to risk ii?
Because they were never involved, ever,
也沒有任何證據能證明他們參與過 and there's no way ifs ever gonna be proven othenuise.
所以這就無所謂了 So it doesn't matter.
我知道要讓他們經歷這些 是很糟糕的 It's a terrible thing that theyre going through,
不過他們永遠也不會被定罪 but they never would have been convicted because they couldn't be convicted.
因為他們是無辜的
他們什麼都沒有做 Because they didn't do anything.
我的妻子也是 Neither did my wife.
什麼都沒做 Nothing. Zero.
- 但你知道你所做的... - 我知道自己做了什麼 - But you know what you've done... - I know what I've done.
你讓整個家都支離破碎了 -...has shattered your family. - I take full responsibility for that
這一點我負全責
這種自責感 也會永遠伴隨我下半輩子 and it'll... lt'll kill me for the rest of my life.
不過... But...
2009年夏天到秋天的時間裏 DIANA: Over the course of the summer and fall of 2009,
政府拍賣掉了馬多夫的財產 the government auctioned off Madoff's property.
蒙托克的海景別墅... The beach house in Montauk...
9百萬 $9 million.
曼哈頓的頂層公寓... The penthouse in Manhattan...
8百萬 $8 million.
棕擱灘的房子... The Palm Beach house...
7百25萬 現無人購買 Available for $ 7. 25 million.
還有奔馳 遊艇 汽艇 The Mercedes-Benz station wagon, yachts and power boats,
棒球夾克 還有一大堆個人物品... Mets jacket, a hodgepodge of personal items...
2009年秋天 By the fall of 2009,
皮夏德從公司的佣金 Picanl had separately collected roughly $1.5 billion
銀行賬戶
資產出售 還有一些法庭外的協議 from the firm's brokerage and bank accounts,
已經零零散散收集了15億了 asset sales, and a few out-of-court settlements.
我們對露絲·馬多夫提起訴訟 We filed suii against Ruth Madoff for $44 million.
讓她賠償4千4百萬 We have filed a clawback suit against Mark and Andrew Madoff
對馬克和安德魯·馬多夫
提起了彌補性收入的訴訟
向他們索要賠償1億2千7百萬 for the return 0f$127.5 million.
-(CAMERAS CLICKING) -(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
你可以負責管理城堡 You can be in charge of the castle.
佛羅里達 奧蘭多 You can be in charge of the dresses.
你負責服裝
- 我負責服裝 對嗎？- 這個假髮會不會太張揚了？ - I get the dresses, right? -lsn't that wig hysterical?
真棒 -(BOTH CHUCKLING) -(PHONE CHIMES)
馬克·馬多夫：皮卡爾向奧德麗提起訴訟 That's great.
向她索賠1萬1千美元 作為露絲和伯尼送她禮物的錢
能幫我看住她一會兒嗎？ Could you watch her for a minute?
馬克 每次我們想拋開過去 STEPHANIE: Mark, any time we try to move on with our life,
向前走的時候 Bernie just finds a way to drag us back down.
伯尼都會找到法子 把我們重新拉回去
- 我已經受夠了 - 抱歉 - I'm sick of it. - MARK: I'm sorry.
我告訴你 你會生氣 不告訴你 你還是會生氣 I tell you' you get angry. I don't tell you, you get angry.
那我該怎麼辦？ What am I supposed to do?
我不知道 I don't know. It's just...
這個傢伙有什麼毛病？ What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
起訴一個4歲的小女孩？ Suing our four-year-old daughter?
- 簡直就是個瘋子 - 我知道 我很抱歉 - It's insane. - I know, I'm sorry.
我只是很討厭這種感覺 I just... I hate that every time
每次以為自己回歸正常的生活了 就會發生不好的事情 I stan to feel normal again, something bad happens.
短信信箱你看過了嗎？ MARK: Have you checked your text messages?
還沒 No.
天啊 他太可愛了 0h, my God, he's so cute. (CHUCKLES)
我愛你 I love you.
我也愛你 I love you, too.
再見 Bye.
(BLINDS CLICKING)
嘿 馬蒂 MARK: (SIGHS) Hey, Marty,
我把文章發給你了 你收到了嗎？ I sent you the article. Did you get it?
聽到留言回個電話給我 Anyway, please give me a call back.
嘿 夥計 是我 Hey, man, it's me.
你是出門了嗎 What, are you away or something?
因為我之前打過來 家裏沒人接 'Cause I called you earlier today and you didn't answer.
我給馬蒂留了個言 但是他好像也不在 I left a message for Marty and he's not there either.
感覺所有人都不在 Like, nobody ever seems to be around.
好像大家都出城去了的感覺 Everybody's out of town or something.
我又來留言了 I'm leaving you another message.
我知道我留了很多條言了 安德魯 I know I keep leaving you messages, Andrew.
我也聯繫不上史蒂芬妮 我誰都聯繫不上！ I can'! even reach Stephanie. I can't reach anybody!
我快要瘋了 I'm seriously gonna lose it.
真的 I really am.
我好像被困在這裏 I'm, like, trapped in here.
猜猜看 Guess what?
又是我 It's me again.
我不知道你是不是出去了... I don't know if you're away with...
你和凱瑟琳出去了嗎？ Are you away with Catherine?
你們去哪兒了？ I mean, where are you guys, anyway?
去釣魚了嗎？ Have you gone fishing?
我感覺自從她出現在你的生活裏 It's just, like, ever since she's been in your life,
我他媽就再也聯繫不上你了 I can't fucking reach you anymore.
我連跟你說句話都難 I can't ever talk to you.
你們就好像總是在度蜜月 過節慶祝！ You'rejust, like, always fucking on some holiday!
好吧 我之前給你留了 Okay, I just left you, like,
一條20分鐘的留言 結果被截斷了 a 20-minute message and I got cut off.
安迪 馬蒂 Andy, MHFIV,
我也不知道現在是在給誰留言 I don't even know who I'm leaving messages for.
我只知道現在我是在留言 I'm just leaving messages now, you know what I mean?
(YELLS)
我們本應該坐在一起 We're supposed to just sit around and, like, you know,
像以前一樣 什麼都不干 with our dicks in our hands, doing nothing?
我已經忍受這樣的生活兩年了 You know, I've been at this for two years.
兩年了！ Two years. Two years!
我再也受不了了！我必須發表一次聲明 I can't keep going on this way! Ihave to make a statement.
發表一次重大的聲明！ I gotta make a big statemeni!
我不能再這樣活下去了 I can't go on like this.
一定要叫人來照顧好尼克
我愛你
(PHONE DIALING)
我們不在家 有事請留言 STEPHANIE: We're not here. Leave a message.
馬克 你在家嗎？ Mark, are you there?
馬克 快接電話 Mark, pick up.
你的來電被自動轉入 AUTOMATED VOICE: Your call has been fon/varded
語音信箱系統 to an automatic voice message system.
"嘩"聲之後 請留言 At the tone, please record your message.
馬克 我剛剛打了家裏的電話沒人接 Mark, ljust tried the house.
聽到留言馬上打電話給我 Uh, uh, call me.
請進 (KNOCK ON DOOR)
媽媽 RUTH: Come in.
怎麼了？ Mom.
馬克給我發了這幾條短信 What's wrong?
我打了家裏的電話 I just got these messages from Mark.
I tried calling the house,
但是沒人接 but he's... He's not picking up.
好了 我剛剛把車停好 All right, yeah. ljust... ljust pulled up.
我現在進去 I'm going inside.
等會再打給你 I'll call you back. All right.
馬克？ Mark?
(DOG BARKING)
(BREATHING HEAVILY)
-(BREATHING HEAVILY) -(DOG CONTINUES BARKING)
嘿！ Hey!
嘿 尼克 Hey, Nicky.
你在幹什麼呢？ What are you doing, huh?
想跟外公走嗎？ Wanna come with Papa?
我們去外面玩 你想出去嗎 We're gonna go outside. You wanna go out...
(NICK CHUCKLING)
好了 格魯伯！ Okay. Grouper!
得把毯子帶上 Gotta get your blanky.
格魯伯 快回來 Grouper, come back.
尼克 跟外公玩躲貓貓好不好 Hey, Nicky, with Papa we're gonna play peek-a-boo.
格魯伯 過來！ Grouper, come! Grouper!
格魯伯！快過來！真乖 Grouper! Grouper, come! Come on, thafs a good boy.
真乖 看著這個... That's a good boy. Look at...
格魯伯 真乖 Grouper, good.
我們去外面玩 We'rejust gonna go outside.
喂？ ANDREW: Hello?
我是馬蒂 It's Marty.
馬剋死了 Mark's dead.
史蒂芬妮！ WOMAN: Stephanie!
- 他上吊自盡的 - 他死了 MARTY: He... He hung himselt WOMAN: He's dead.
有人通知媽媽嗎？ AN DREW: Has anybody called my mother?
我得給媽媽打個電話 I have to call my mother.
(PHONE RINGING)
安迪？ RUTH: Andy?
真高興能聽到你的聲音 親愛的 0h, it's so good to hear your voice, sweetheart.
(SCREAMS) No!
(RUTH SOBBING)
(GLASS SHATTERS)
(CONTINUES SOBBING)
在馬克自殺後一個星期 MARTY: I wrote Bernie a letter a week after Mark killed himselt
我給伯尼寫了封信
但是一直沒有寄給他 And I never sent it to him, because they monitor his mail
因為他的收件會受到嚴格的監控
像這種類型信件 and I thought they would never, ever give him a letter like this.
他們應該不會通過
你可以在節目中念出來 他說不定正在看 Well, here, you can say it on TV. He's probably watching.
我是這樣寫的 Well, what I wrote to him was,
"伯尼 我不會寄給你" “Bemie, while I will not
"你外孫 外孫女的照片" "send you pictures of your grandchildren,
"這裏有張照片 是我想跟你分享的" "there is one picture I do want you to see.
"這是你兒子 馬克生前最後一張照片" "That last picture of your son, Mark.
"這是你欠他妻子" “You owe it to his widow,
"他孩子 他弟弟 還有他媽媽的" "his children, his brother, his mother.
"下面是我對你的祝福 伯尼" "So, here is what I wish for you, Bernie.
"希望你每次坐下來吃飯的時候" "Every time you sit down to eat,
"當你拿起你的塑料叉子" "as you pick up your plastic fork,
"你就能看到你兒子的屍首" "I want you to see your son's corpse
"吊在你桌子正上方的椽子上" "hanging from the rafter directly over your table,
"和你面對著面 伯尼" “right in front of you, Bernie.
"你吃的每一餐 都會看到你的兒子馬克..." "So at every meal, you see your son, Mark.
"他那雙白色襪子" "His white sweat socks are swaying
"在你眼前輕盈地搖晃" "ever so gently at your eye level,
"就在你餐盤的上方" “immediately above your food dish.
"當你抬起頭" "And as you look up, Bernie,
"你就能看見" "you see...
"你的長子懸掛在屋樑上" "You see your firstborn son hanging there,
"他的頭向左偏倚著" “his head at a left-leaning angle,
"斜斜地注視著你" "looking down at you,
"質問著你 為什麼要這樣對你自己的兒子" “asking how could you do that to your son,
"他在死前的這兩年裏" “who up until two years before his death
"給予了你最偉大的禮物..." “had given you the greatest gift...
"那就是他對父親毫無保留的愛" “His unconditional love for his father."
希望他能聽見 WOMAN: Well, I hope he heaml that.
- 希望如此 - 他牢房裏有免費電視看 - I hope he heard that. - MARTY: Well, he gets free television,
所以他肯定聽得見 so why shouldn't he hear it?
他為什麼沒有鑽進地縫裏 那裏才是他的歸屬？ Why isn't he in a hole where he belongs?
他說他在監獄裏生活得 WOMAN: He says that he is happier in prison
- 比以前更快樂 - 有免費的食物！ -than he was before. - MARTY: Free meals!
- 在監獄裏有安全感 - 而他的受害者們 WOMAN: He feels safe in prison. MARTY: His victims
只能吃殘羹剩飯 are eating their dinner out of cat food cans.
然後他說 "普通人都以為" WOMAN: Then he says, "The average person thinks I rubbed widows and orphans.
"我是通過搶劫寡婦 孤兒的錢" “l made wealthy people wealthier." That is not true.
"來使有錢人更有錢的" 這不是真的
馬克 他留了一張遺書 MARTY: Mark... He wrote a note.
上面寫道 The note said,
"伯尼 你用你詐騙的一生" "Bernie, this is what happens
"毀了你自己的兒子" “when you destroy your sons
- "這就是下場" - 嗯哼 “by your life of deceit.
- "去死吧 伯尼" - 嗯哼 “Fuck you, Bernie."
- 這是馬克的自殺遺書 - 好吧 - That was Mark's suicide note. - WOMAN: Right.
我不能再來了 RUTH: I can't keep coming here.
我想和安迪重歸於好 I want a relationship with Andy,
他不願意我再繼續來看你 and he won't see me ifl keep coming here.
我做不到兩邊兼顧 I can! have it both ways.
我能理解 BERNIE: No, I understand.
我也不能繼續再跟你說話了 And I can't talk to you anymore.
你不要寫信 或者打電話給我 You can't write to me or call me.
那樣我太痛苦了 Ifll be too hard.
露絲 我做的一切都是想讓你和 Ruth, all I want is whafs best for you and for the boys.
孩子們過得更好
是孩子 伯尼 Boy, Bernie.
現在只有一個了 BOY-
你是我的救生員 You were my lifeguard.
我本以為你能保護我一輩子 I thoughi you were gonna protect me forever.
這是我擁有過最好的工作了 Bestjob I ever had.
除了你 我不需要去救任何人 I never had to save anybody.
我不知道和你斷開聯繫 I don't know if it will ever be any different than it feels now.
會不會改變我現在的心情
在失去一個孩子之後 I don't think afler losing a child
我不認為情況會有所好轉 things ever get better.
我看不到自己的未來 I don't see much of a future for me.
或許我就沒有吧 And I don't really care if I have one.
未來太艱辛了 The future's hard.
我很抱歉看到《人物週刊》上 Yeah, I was sorry to see that People Magazine
用了你跟馬克小時候合影的那張照片 used that photo of you and Mark when he was a boy.
我永遠也無法原諒你 伯尼 I can never forgive you, Bernie.
可是我也不生你氣 And yet I'm not angry at you.
不知道為什麼 I don'i know why.
我現在感覺很麻木 It's a combination of feeling numb and it seeming fruitless.
感覺做什麼事都沒有希望
我記不得當救生員 一個月能賺多少錢了 I don't remember how much I got paid as a lifeguard,
不過錢從來都不是最重要的 but it was never about the money.
2013年 DIANA: In 2013,
我邀請安德魯來我在普林斯頓 I invited Andrew to speak at a writing seminar I conducted at Princeton
舉行的寫作促進會演講
主題背景是關於騙子的寫作的 under the general theme of writing about con artists.
安迪由於淋巴瘤復發 Andy had just started chemotherapy for the recurrence of lymphoma.
正在接受化療
我為他的演講 選的主題是 The topic I asked him to think about for the class
媒體是如何報道他父親的詐騙案的 was how the media had covered his fathefs case
而這又是如何影響他的生活的 and how that affected his life.
我一直很想知道 STUDENT: I've always wondered,
你為什麼不參加電視節目 說出案件的實情？ why didn't you go on TV and state your case?
為什麼不為自己發聲？ Why didn't you defend yourself?
其中的一個原因是 Well, one of the reasons
我一直對上電視節目 I've always felt uncomfortable
然後說出自己的故事 這種事持觀望態度 about the prospect of going on TV and telling my story
因為我不覺得自己是那種 能讓其他人產生共鳴的人 is that I don't know if I'm that sympathetic a character.
而在一天結束之後 And at the end of the day,
我回想起以前富裕尊貴的生活 l lived a life of great wealth and privilege.
我可以環遊世界 Um, Itraveled the world.
想買什麼買什麼 Uh, I wanted for nothing.
不過這一切都是由 All of that was subsidized by my father's victims.
我父親的受害者買單的
想要說出我們的故事 馬克的故事... It's hard to tell our story,
我媽媽、還有我的故事 是很困難的 Mark's, my mother's, myself, uh,
因為每個人都有自己的故事
when there are so many other stories.
我哥哥自殺了 You know, my brother killed himselt
我媽媽也失去了世界上 她唯一愛過的男人 My mother lost the only man she ever loved,
結果那個人還是個詐騙犯 turned out to be a complete fraud.
但這件事受影響的 不僅是我們3個人 But, you know, there were just three of us.
還有千千萬萬的受害者 There are thousands of victims.
然後... And, uh...
還有其它問題嗎？ Any other questions?
請說 Yes.
父子之間的關係 The father-son relationship is such an important factor in anyone's life.
是一個人的人生當中 非常特殊的一種關係
你和你爸爸的這種聯繫 在某種程度上應該 There must be some part of that relationship with your father
還有所殘存 that still exists.
即使經歷過這樣的事情 Even after all this,
你的內心深處 其實有沒有想過去探望一下他 can you see some point where you could visit him
或者跟他說說話？ or talk to him again?
我爸爸在我內心已經死了 My father is dead to me.
2014年9月3號 WOMAN: On September 3rd, 2014,
安德魯·馬多夫 Andrew Madoff died from mantle cell lymphoma.
死於套細胞淋巴癌
(PHONE RINGING)
嗨 我是露絲 Hi, this is Ruth.
"嘩"聲之後 請留言 Leave a message after the tone.
(BEEPS)
嗨 露絲 我只是想... Hi, Ruth, ljust wanted to...
我知道我說過不再打電話過來 I know I said lwouldn't call, but I just...
好吧 OKHY-
(PHONE DIALING)
(PHONE RINGING)
(SIGHS)
(PHONE DIALING)
(PHONE RINGING)
嗨 我是露絲 Hi, this is Ruth.
"嘩"聲之後 請留言 Leave a message after the tone.
(BEEPS)
(PHONE DIALING)
非常抱歉 AUTOMATED VOICE: We're sorry.
你所撥打的電話 已經無人使用 You have reached a number that is no longer in service.
如果你感覺打錯了 If you feel that you have reached this recording in error,
請檢查一遍電話號碼... please check the number and...
嘿 我今天上了次網 BERNIE: Hey, Iwas online today
看到一些以前寫我的報道 and I'm reading some of the old coverage of me
然後發現了這篇文章 and I came across this article.
老實說 其實挺搞笑的 Frankly, it wasjust ridiculous.
文章寫的是什麼？ WOMAN: What was the article?
《紐約時報》採訪了一個人 The New York Times interviewed this guy,
是一個犯罪心理學家 a forensic psychologist who worked on the Ted Bundy case.
他曾偵辦過泰德·邦迪一案
而這個人 喬·布洛 And this guy, Joe Blow, whom I've never met, never talked to,
我們從沒見過 也沒說過話 don't know from Adam, never seen in my whole entire life,
之前也從來沒有過交集 更沒遠方親戚關係
卻在那邊高談闊論 我跟泰德·邦迪的 was going on and on about the similarities between Ted Bundy and myself.
相似之處
我能理解做這樣的比較 是會讓人感覺不舒服 I can see how that comparison would be troubling, but...
文中其實也沒有寫比較 Well, there is no comparison.
是個正常人都不會把我跟某個 I mean, how can you compare me to someone
把女人頭砍下來當紀念品的瘋子 相提並論吧？ who decapitated women and kept their heads as mementos?
他的行為才算得上是真正邪惡的人類 I mean, that's the behavior of a truly, truly evil human being.
這究竟有什麼可比性啊？ I mean, what comparison is there, ever, possibly in that?
但是在《紐約時報》上 And yet the New York Times, the "Newspaper of Record,"
所謂的"資料報紙"
"時事新聞" "All the News That's Fit to Print,"
從來沒有人評論這是一篇荒謬可笑的文章 never had anyone say, "This is a preposterous piece of writing,
特別是企業版上 "especially for the business section."
你覺得他們為什麼要做這樣的比較？ Well, why do you think they made that comparison?
- 當我檢舉自己的時候... - 是你兒子檢舉的你 - You know, when I turned myself in... - Your sons turned you in.
是我自己自首的 No, no, but I turned myself in.
反正前後也就只相差幾天 就當是我自己檢舉的 It was a matter of a few days, so I was gonna do it.
當我自首的時候 So anyway, when I turned myself in...
正值整個反華爾街風暴的高潮 It was the height of the whole anti-Wall Street hysteria
人們需要一個反面角色 一個代表 and they needed a villain, they needed a face for the whole mess they created.
來幫忙處理他們所捅的大簍子 That face became me, so thafs...
而這個代表就變成了我
我也不知道... I don't know, I just...
我根本不想去想 I don't even wanna think about it.
想什麼？ WOMAN: Think about what?
他會殺死無辜的人 Well, he killed people, innocent people.
而對我而言 我想告誡大家的是 And in my case, Itold people, everyone,
"永遠別把超過一半的錢投在我身上" "Don't put more than half your money with me.
未來的情況 誰說得清楚呢？ "You never know. Who the hell knows?
可能某一天 我就變成瘋子了 "L mean, one day, I could just go crazy."
可事實就是 人們都太貪婪了 But the reality is, people are greedy.
嗯 事實是你的警告是毫無根據的 WOMAN: The reality is that not even your warning was true,
而且不管怎麼說 錢都被你們偷走了 and you took their money anyway.
讓我問你一個問題 Let me ask you a question.
我看起來像是反社會人格嗎？ Do you think I'm a sociopath?